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 Diamondback Sorrento upgrades?
I am a beginner and I own a D-Back Sorrento, which I enjoy. It is an entry level bike, but does anyone have any suggestions on upgrades to make it a little lighter?

For people who want to reply with "get a new bike", don't bother. Just need some friendly advise from MTB enthusiasts.
Posted by JLO a 27 year old Weekend Warrior riding a Diamondback Sorrento from San Diego on 09/30/01


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  •  Re: Diamondback Sorrento upgrades?
    Take it from someone who knows, I owned a Diamondback Zetec comp and went on the journey to lighten it up. It's a non-stop deal once you start. First, you lose a pound to two pounds on the wheels, but a good wheel set will set you back at least $200-$250. Next is the fork, a Manitou Mars can be had for about $135 and is far lighter than the RST/Post Moderne or whatever you have on this bike. Then you start looking at the brakes, saying to yourself, "well, I could shave a 1/4 to 1/2 a pound there, going from Koski or whatever you have to LX or XT, or the Avid SD-7's $70 a set, but that's on sale. Then it's the crankset. "why look at that, the Truvative Stylo team Crankset is a full pound lighter than my Truvative Firex, FSA or whatever you have", add another $200, this includes the lighter bottom bracket. Next it's the seatpost, seat and stem, then the pedals. Even the headset , the handlebars and the shifters are a consideration. It still weighed 26 lbs even after I put all the stuff on it. Next, I bought a different frame, but still kept the heavy stem, handlebars and LX brakes. Now I'm on my third bike and finally have the value I wanted out of it, simply because I got an incredible deal on a new f/s frame from the manufacturer and am actually ahead now. But the other two bikes, I would've been better off just buying a new bike or buying a good used bike. You'll get more bike this way, than piecing it together.

    If you really enjoy it, keep it stock. The Sorrento is a nice recreational bike, well suited for light trail work. But this bike is not intended for serious off-road duty, without major and expensive upgrades. The frame is probably sturdy, but heavy. In my humble opinion, you should start shopping for a really good hardtail, like the Specialized Stumpjumper. A very popular high end bike, these were very good bikes with pretty light components all the way around. Even the older ones are far lighter and faster than what you own. I owned a 1993 Stumpjumper, that I got for $350, and it was a great bike that had quality parts all over it. Brand new, it went for $1,400, and the quality components on it stood the test of time, all Shimano LX or XT. The newer ones 98 and above can be had for $500-$600. If it sounds like a lot, consider what cash you would've dumped into the Sorrento, including the purchase price. I love my bikes, but never fall in love with them and am willing to upgrade when I can. My .02 worth

    Posted by STP a 42 year old riding a K2 Razorback from Palmdale on 10/01/01


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  •  Re: Diamondback Sorrento upgrades?
    Like STP explains, the upgrade path is a very long and twisting road. It'll suck your wallet dry and turn your hair gray.

    But if you have the bank account and the fortitude, it can be an extremely rewarding hobby.

    If you don't feel like diving in and doing the big upgrades (wheelset, drivetrain, etc), there are still a couple of small upgrades that will make a noticeable difference (in ride quality, if not necessarily weight savings).


    You mention that you enjoy your bike. The fit must be pretty good then.
    Try swapping out the stem for one with less Rise. (Front-loading stems allow you to do this without a lot of fuss). This will accomplish a number of things (as long as you don't get too low so as to become uncomfortable). This will put you in a more aggressive position. Power and handling will increase substantially, and you'll be a bit more aerodynamic.

    Going from a "riser" bar to a straight bar will also accomplish this to an extent. (Go with an alloy bar to reduce weight). Beware that straight bars generally do not have as much sweep (rearward bend). Just be sure that you remain comfortable.

    If your tires aren't ideal for the terrain you ride (be it mud, trails, or pavement), then get a set that are specifically designed for the type of riding you do. Tires can make a huge difference in speed and handling (and may be lighter to boot).

    Get yourself a pair of clipless pedals (and of course shoes). This is a somewhat expensive upgrade, but one that you can hang on any future bike you purchase.

    (One of the golden rules of upgrading is to try to purchase items that you can put right on a future new bike, or on another upgrade bike project). If you do your upgrading with this in mind, then you'll benefit many times over.

    Clipless pedals will increase your power, smooth your cadence, and improve your handling. (Ask anyone who has them, and they'll tell you they'd never go back).

    For pure weight savings, swap out your seatpost (or add comfort with a high quality suspension seatpost). Speaking of comfort, how is your saddle? Putting a more comfortable saddle on will increase your riding time. And comfort comes from the shape of the saddle, not necessarily the composition... so a much lighter saddle certainly could also be the more comfortable one. How about padded biking shorts, and gloves?

    Have a bike shop retension your wheels to a balanced, more optimum overall tension. This can make them faster, more durable, and increase handling. (I really wouldn't try this yourself yet - even though the only tool you really need is a spoke wrench).

    Adjust your drivetrain so that it shifts perfectly (a poorly tuned derailleur can be a real hassle).

    Check that your brakes aren't rubbing, and that your pads are positioned correctly.

    Make sure your handlebar is perfectly straight (you wouldn't believe how much an off-kilter handlebar can detract from handling/stability).


    Rotate your shifters and brake levers so that they are most comfortable. Adjust your brake levers' "reach."

    If you want to monkey with the drivetrain, the most cost effective upgrade is the bottom bracket. It involves some special tools, and there are certainly compatibility issues, so I'd recommend your LBS or a very knowledgeable buddy do it. Putting in say a BB-UN72 will eliminate a sizeable chunk of weight, and increase your drivetrain efficiency (those are very good bearings).

    If you can afford one big upgrade, then go for a new wheelset. Your money will make the biggest difference there. If you can swing it, get a good enough wheelset that would also be an upgrade when hanging on your future bike! (There is the compatibility issue regarding your current 7-speed vs. a new 8/9-speed hub though). Hmm... a subject for another day.

    Well, like STP says, you can certainly pour a lot of money into it (and perhaps some down the drain), but there are still a few little tweaks that you can benefit immediately from.

    Good luck, and just remember that the important thing is to just keep riding and loving it.

    Sky.




    Posted by Skywalker on 10/01/01


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    •  Re: Diamondback Sorrento upgrades?
      I liked your response but I just read an article in the November issue of Moutian Bike Mag by Selene Yeager, "Swith back to flats" They suggest that beginners stay with flats for awhile to learn slow speed balance, aggressive commitment, body flow, and better basics. I'm a beginner, do you agree with this?
      Posted by Tripple A a 24 year old Die-hard Enthusiast riding a Mongoose Rockadile SX from Huntsville AL on 10/18/01

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  •  Re: Diamondback Sorrento upgrades?
    Thanks guys for the great advice. I appreciate it.
    Posted by JLO a 27 year old riding a Diamondback Sorrento from San Diego on 10/02/01

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