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Ahh, Stone Smoked Porter. One of my all-time favorites. I had it last night, and followed it up with a very young, but still quite drinkable Vertical Epic.
Posted by El Jefe  a 35 year old on 11/06/04
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Fuller's Porter is a darned good beer.
Some brew porters to be way out of style and strong enough to hit you over the head, like a stout. Porters should be subtle, thin and complex and this one is exactly those things. If any brewery can nail a British style, Fullers is it.
Posted by GC on 06/06/05
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Ahh, Stone Smoked Porter. One of my all-time favorites. I had it last night, and followed it up with a very young, but still quite drinkable.
Posted by El Jefe a 35 year old on 11/06/04
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I had Delirium Nocturnum last night. I thought it wasn't quite as smooth as Delirium Tremens, but still more well rounded than Chimay. It was a lovely 9.6% alcohol, disguised quite well by the rich malt and Belgian yeast. Yum.
Posted by El Jefe a 35 year old on 11/04/04
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Speaking of Belgian beers...
So far, a good week in Singapore for sampling Belgians:
1. A couple of Rochefort 10's. 11.3%ABV, but verrrrry smooth. Still my favorite beer of all time. Wish I could find it in the OC. Oh well, gives me something to look forward to on my visits to SingSing.
2. Abbaye de Rocs. Another really good Belgian dark ale, 9%ABV, hints of plum flavor, can't find this one in the OC, either...
3. St. Sebastiaan Grand Cru. Interesting, lighter flavor than the others, but not one I'd look for back home.
4. Some other pale Belgian ale, but by then, who knows what the h*ll I was drinking... I think it was a Rodenbach
Though the beer was good, for sure, it was probably the strangest night for food I've ever had. Here's a rundown of the food consumed while sampling the brews:
1. Raw octopus (pretty good, very sushi-like)
2. Raw oysters (not my thing)
3. Steamed New Zealand green mussels with plenty of garlic
4. Four kinds of German sausage + sourkraut + potato salad
5. Roast rabbit (very mild and good)
6. Grilled kangaroo ribs (ugggghhh... very gamey, like mutton from h*ll)
7. Pork knuckle (a bit stronger taste than carnitas, darker meat, but tasty)
Weird... Next time, I guess we'll have to try the alligator.
Hey, if anyone knows anywhere to find the Rochefort 10 in the OC, post it here please!!!!
Keep riding, stay dirty (token mtb content...)
Posted by VLander a 45 year old on 11/07/04
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I had a Diabolique Cuvee last night. I believe the alcohol content is close to Delirium Nocturnum, but not quite as malty. A bit more of a pilsner type, with a nice Belgian trappist finish. One of those big bottles definitely goes a long way.
Tonight is Father's Office...many good choices.
Tomorrow night is James Squire Australian Amber with a couple shots of Corallejo Anejo tequila.
MMMMMMMMMMMMMM.
Posted by CrzyRidr3 a 33 year old on 11/04/04
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"Tonight is Father's Office...many good choices."
Ha ha ha ha ha!!! Right. ;-)
Posted by Endo Verendo on 11/08/04
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Last night I celebrated our democracy with a La Fin Du Monde.
Looking forward to FO! FO! FO! FO!
Posted by Black Bart on 11/04/04
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Yes, Utah. Where the women aren't nearly as mormon as they may seem to be at first....
Posted by El Jefe a 35 year old on 11/02/04
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Sorry, my bad.....or should I say, my baaaaaaaad. :-)
Posted by El Jefe a 35 year old on 11/02/04
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A few of the winter seasonals are trickling in. Tried the Deschutes 'Jubelale' last week, pretty darn tasty. Preferred by 9 out of 10 goat herders, at least the ones that frequent Bev-Mo.
Posted by Ezyrider2 on 11/02/04
yum, beer!
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I haven't had the Deschutes. Thanks for the heads-up.
I did just go buy my bottles of the '04 DB, and here's the obligatory MTB-reference....
pix:https://www.stonebrew.com/Merchant2/graphics/dbjers.jpg
Posted by EBasil on 11/02/04
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Hey, the link didn't show! (but shows up on the reply!?!)
link:http://www.deschutesbrewery.com/BrewPub/OnTap/5811.aspx
Posted by Ezyrider2 riding a cozy seat from da pub on 11/02/04
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My suggestion is that we all view the site after finding and consuming seasonal microbrews. Anchor's Christmas Ale is still a few weeks away...but Stone opened the OAKED today...
Posted by EBasil on 11/01/04
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Tried a Diabolique from Andelot Proefbrouwerij (Belgium) over the weekend. $5.99 at TJ's for a 750ml bottle, so it's a cheap Chimay substitute.
I liked it, you may too.
(just need to get this thread back up on the board)
Posted by Black Bart a 32 year old Die-hard Enthusiast from Santa Monica on 11/01/04
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I'll have to try it. Are you working all week? I'm on hiatus if you wanna ride sometime. I'm also defenitely going to FO sometime this week.
Posted by Endo Verendo on 11/01/04
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While I was attending to a loved one in the hospital, I brought with me a Guinness pub draught can. Nothing like drinking in a hospital room!
Posted by El Jefe  on 03/10/04
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Now that I have given up XC for the darkside, every beer is a good one. And there are lots more of em too.
The next 24hr race is gonna be a blast.
Posted by Softy on 03/10/04
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Just got back from AZ with a six of New Belian Fat Tire and 1554 Dark Ale, Oak Creek Nut Brown and Mogollon Wapiti Amber. The inside of my fridge looks just as scenic as Sedona.
Posted by Endo Verendo on 03/15/04
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Ya gotta love a fridge with that kind of scenery. Hey Endo, if you need your refridgerater cleaned out I would be happy to oblige.
Posted by DIRTJUNKIE a 42 year old Die-hard Enthusiast riding a Intense UZZI-SL from Rancho Bernardo on 03/16/04
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Oh, this is nice. Coming home from a nice hot ride and popping open a cold Fat Tire.
Posted by Endo Verendo on 03/20/04
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Anderson Valley Hop Ottin' IPA is great stuff."Brewed from the finest hops, malted barley, hops, yeast, hops, and pristine Boonville mineral water. And hops."Weighing in at 7% Alc. by vol., it'll make you very hoppy.
Posted by Black Bart a 31 year old Die-hard Enthusiast riding a Sugar+ from Santa Monica on 04/07/04
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Are you an IPA fan? Got more you want to bust out for review?
I had a mild IPA at Karl Strauss yesterday during brunch. Well, I had three, but that's only because I am a wildman drinker...or something like that. Not much as IPA's go, but it was a damn fine clean Pale Ale!
Posted by EBasil riding a Manitou HT from San Diego on 04/12/04
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Have you ever tried the Acme IPA? Not a bad one at all. Hopped a little more than a typical IPA, but very tasty with a stronger finish than you'd get out of a typical IPA.
Posted by STP a 45 year old Racer riding a K2 Razorpig from P'dale on 04/12/04
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Yes! I have two more of those in the fridge. I like the hopping for bitterness, but the Acme doesn't seem to have the aromatics it "should" for an IPA. It's a little lighter in body than many...great for tossing down in hot weather. Last night, we had them with smoked tri-tip.
BevMo is our ambassador to the world!
Posted by EBasil riding a Manitou HT from San Diego on 04/12/04
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The Acme is good, but IPA over a month in bottle will start to lose any dry hop aroma (that real hoppy or citrusy nose and flavor immediately present). IPA is best very young or out of the keg so that the aroma stays with it.
Tried a Hoptown IPA last night. It was an English style (use of a Burton's style yeast, producing fruity esters) and bitter. They used some of a "C" hop (prob. a Cascade) for the citrus nose to tease the fruit flavor that would fill the palate on the way down. Good. Unfortunately, it had the same lack of true hop nose like you described.
Posted by GC on 04/13/04
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I'll look up that Hoptown IPA at my local liquour store.
Posted by STP a 45 year old Racer riding a K2 Razorpig from P'dale on 04/13/04
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Agreed, had a draft Anderson IPA at The Library last night. It was, of course, better than from the bottle. Followed that with a Stone Pale Ale (I know, sorta backwards, I was thinking of going with the Bastard but one IPA on an empty stomach was already doin the trick). It took a few swigs to clear the palate, but a decent Pale Ale.
Both are excellent with the turkey meatloaf.
Posted by Black Bart on 04/14/04
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Next time you're headed to the Library, shoot me an email. I have some studying to do. nothing like meeting face to face with SoCalmtb'ers over a couple beers and some quality entertainment.
Posted by El Jefe on 04/14/04
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That's icky!
nice Sleestack sighting though!
Posted by Macrider a 37 year old Die-hard Enthusiast riding a Turner RFX, XCE & Trek Bruiser 2 from LA on 04/14/04
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Whoa, looks like some best beer posts were removed. 1 Chimay red label, and one Arrogant Bastard for this evening, please.
Posted by El Jefe on 04/14/04
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Not sure if we're talking about the same place, Library Ale House on Main in Santa Monica. But hey, if you wanna swing up here for a beer, that's cool. I think I owe you one!
Posted by Black Bart from Santa Monica on 04/14/04
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Just picked up a Hop Ottin at TJ's. I'm ot much of an IPA guy, but I'll check it out and get back to ya.
Posted by Endo Verendo on 04/12/04
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Review: not bad. Not as hoppy as I had expected and it had pleasantly sweet after-tones. It tasted 'lighter' than I expected. I was missing the full flavor that accompanies the bold hops in something like Arrogant Bastard. I'm not an IPA fan or know enough about them to really say yay or nay to this except that I think I need to buy another Hop Ottin or two just to make sure.
Posted by Endo Verendo on 04/14/04
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Ha, yeah, better make sure. When you're at TJ's pick up a couple of Anderson's Boont Amber Ale, if you have not tried it. Delicious!
I'm in AZ right now, so I'm enjoying some Fat Tire. mmmmm
Posted by Black Bart on 04/14/04
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Bashtard! Hey, could you bring me back two bottles of Mogollon Wapiti Amber and some New Belgium 1554 Dark Ale? Pretty please? :-)
Posted by Endo Verendo on 04/14/04
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Hmmm, how many bottles are allowed as carryon luggage? Will a 12 pack fit under the seat?
Posted by Black Bart on 04/16/04
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So, I forgot to bring any back with me. The good news is, I'll have nice cold Fat Tire waiting in the fridge next time I visit my mom. :)
Posted by Black Bart a 31 year old Die-hard Enthusiast riding a Sugar+ and a Schwinn Cruiser Seven from Santa Monica on 05/17/04
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This dropped *way* to far off the list...
Looking forward to EzyRider2's suds taste-fest manana.
Which will become the new "session beer?" (Hate to think that FireRock will get bumped from it's current lofty position...)
The suspense is killin' me...
Posted by VLander on 08/18/04
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Here's the low down; 4 levels, 3 beers each, blind taste test. Moves from low octane to high.
Round I: 'Some Light, Some Not'
Round II: 'Clash of the Pale Ales'
Round III: 'Time For Some Ass Kickers'
Round IV: 'Break Out the Dark and Nasty'
This should be interesting. Suds are in the frig, and a chillin away. Gentlemen, start your taste buds.
Posted by EzyRider2 riding a BevMo Especial from Hop City, USA on 08/18/04
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Had some dogfish head 120 min IPA last night. They had a note on the chalkboard at the bar that it was the strongest beer in the world at 24.6% ABV. Lol. It was actually quite good, surprisingly! It better be at $13/12oz bottle. I doubt you'd need to drink more than one at a sitting though.
Posted by Mudpuppy a 31 year old Weekend Warrior riding a Cannondale F400 from Southbay on 04/15/04
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Hey, we were talking about this brew not too long ago. When I called Dogfish, they couldn't come up with anywhere in California that distributed or "has" the 120min IPA. Where'd you get to try it?
Posted by EBasil riding a Manitou HT from San Diego on 04/15/04
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I was at a place near the Redondo Beach pier called Najas. They have quite a selection there...
http://www.redondo.com/business/najas.html
Posted by Mudpuppy a 31 year old Weekend Warrior riding a Cannondale F400 from Southbay on 04/15/04
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Gotta love Najas...on a similar note--
Lucky Baldwins has a Barleywine Festival that runs from the 17th to the 25th.
Stone Old Guardian on tap, Bigfoot, etc.
See ya'll there.
Posted by Surly a 28 year old Die-hard Enthusiast riding a '02 Giant AC from Pasadena on 04/18/04
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Check out Liquid Solutions on the web. Lots of good stuff, a bit pricey, but if you want it, they got it!!
Posted by IMTony a 37 year old Die-hard Enthusiast riding a Intense Tracer, SLX and Spot SS from Temecula on 04/18/04
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Found it. Yeah, $8.75 for a 12 oz. of the Dogfish 120 IS steep. Amazing beer list, though. I will have to go back and play on that site sometime. Thanks for the tip!
Posted by EBasil riding a Manitou HT from San Diego on 04/19/04
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Ok,
My favorite current beers are:
Lagunitas-The Kronic (Censored) Rich Copper Ale and 7.7%ABV. Careful with this one, you can't taste the alcohol at all. Rich carmel taste and verrrrrryyyyy smoooov...
040404 Stone Vertical Epic - A good, young, Abbey Trippel with a kick of lime and citrusy flavors. Should age very well if you can keep from drinking it!! 8.5%ABV and very tastey, if you can find it, buy as much as you can and let it age...
Lastly, besides the usual suspects (Ruination IPA and Double Bastard) I tried a Moylans Kilt Lifter, Scotch Ale. Very good, strong chocolate and caramel scents, and great warm mouthfeel. Not particulary bitter or complex, but very, very, drinkable; but, at 8% ABV, you might be advised to go easy!!
Posted by IMTony a 37 year old Die-hard Enthusiast riding a Intense Tracer, SLX and Spot SS from Temecula on 04/18/04
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all very good brews!
I went to pick up some Vertical Epic & my local Bristol Farms told me they got ONE case and one guy bought 6 and a chick came in the next day and bought the other 6 (should I have asked if she was single???)
no Vert for me, unless I can find more in another shop on the Westside...
Posted by Macrider a 37 year old Die-hard Enthusiast riding a Turner RFX, XCE & Trek Bruiser 2 from LA on 04/19/04
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I have to admit, I won't be laying these down to wait for the intended Vertical Epic consumption method. That's fun, but I just don't have the refrigerator to dedicate to the right temperatures for several years. I've been using a one-year rule, to let the ales settle-in, because I don't think they'll be near to the intended result when consumed in the year of their labeling.
I did multi-year laydowns of Thomas Hardy, Sierra Nevada Celebration and several homebrews in the 80/90's but my folks won't let me monopolize their spare fridge anymore.
Posted by EBasil riding a Manitou HT from San Diego on 04/19/04
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The bottle of Deus JimN got me for my birthday a couple weeks ago went right into the wine rack.
Posted by Endo Verendo on 04/19/04
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I have space I can loan you. I'll keep a close watch on proper serving temperature, too. ;)
Posted by GC on 04/19/04
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Yeah, uh, that sounds a lot like how I found out my folks didn't want to leave me with sole use of their fridge. My Dad commented to me about one of the beers he drank. I actually drove to LA with a cooler the next morning to perform an extraction (with extreme prejudice).
Now, I only stock their "spare" fridge with what I can easily replace from the Green Jug or whatnot.
Posted by EBasil riding a Manitou HT from San Diego on 04/20/04
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Tons in OC at Bev Mo.
Haven't tried it yet, too young to drink. Cellaring a few bottles for a bit...
Posted by GC on 04/19/04
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The Guinness-bike, as reported in BRAIN:
Posted by EBasil riding a Manitou HT from San Diego on 04/20/04
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Sad news in the beer world:
Today it was announced that Canada's Sleeman Breweries is acquiring Unibroue:
http://www.unibroue.com/brewery/040420.pdf
To me, this is not encouraging news. Sleeman is Canada's third largest brewer, although considerably smaller than Molson and Labatt. They brew several beers that are unremarkable to my taste and have the distribution rights to a number of import brands in Canada. Unibroue is unique in North American brewing, with its own distinctive Quebecois attitude and accent, and brews several outstanding Belgian styles that have rather wide distribution in Canada and the US.
I might look upon the deal more favorably if Sleeman had acquired the rights only to distribute the Unibroue beers in English-speaking Canada, but Sleeman's attitude about beer in general is much less experimental and you have to wonder if the innovation in styles will continue.
C'est la vie, as I'm sure someone is saying.
Posted by GC on 04/20/04
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Noooo!
Well, as long as they keep brewing Maudite I will be happy.
Posted by Mudpuppy a 31 year old Weekend Warrior riding a Cannondale F400 from Southbay on 04/21/04
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Their history of acquisition and brand consolidation may mean the end to some of those great beers. Every brewery/brand they've touched has been "dumbed down" for mass markets or eliminated.
Posted by GC on 04/21/04
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Although this might seem like a bad thing, a crappy beer producer buying a great beer producer, Sleeman will probably not change any of Unibroues beer formulas. If they wanted to make more crappy beer they would probably just expand their current production facility or buy another crappy beer brand.
These mergers have been a happening alot in the wine world and usually it is for the better, unless the company is bought by Gallo, then it goes to crap.
Posted by Uhkuhjillion a 28 year old Cross-Country riding a a Jereboam of Arogant Bastard from Pasadena on 04/21/04
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You've hit it on the head, Steelman is the Gallo of beers.
They are known for sliming lines down to only the most pedestrian and killing styles and techniques of good breweries like Le Signeurale and Upper Canada (other breweries that they've purchased and dumbed down).
This is akin to Miller buying Stone.
Posted by GC on 04/21/04
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If you ever even mention the words "Miller," and "buying," with our beloved San Diego brewery again, I may have to get violent.
Posted by El Jefe on 04/21/04
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