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Ahh, Stone Smoked Porter. One of my all-time favorites. I had it last night, and followed it up with a very young, but still quite drinkable Vertical Epic.
Posted by El Jefe  a 35 year old on 11/06/04
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Fuller's Porter is a darned good beer. Some brew porters to be way out of style and strong enough to hit you over the head, like a stout. Porters should be subtle, thin and complex and this one is exactly those things. If any brewery can nail a British style, Fullers is it.
Posted by GC on 06/06/05
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Ahh, Stone Smoked Porter. One of my all-time favorites. I had it last night, and followed it up with a very young, but still quite drinkable.
Posted by El Jefe a 35 year old on 11/06/04
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I had Delirium Nocturnum last night. I thought it wasn't quite as smooth as Delirium Tremens, but still more well rounded than Chimay. It was a lovely 9.6% alcohol, disguised quite well by the rich malt and Belgian yeast. Yum.
Posted by El Jefe a 35 year old on 11/04/04
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Speaking of Belgian beers... So far, a good week in Singapore for sampling Belgians:
1. A couple of Rochefort 10's. 11.3%ABV, but verrrrry smooth. Still my favorite beer of all time. Wish I could find it in the OC. Oh well, gives me something to look forward to on my visits to SingSing.
2. Abbaye de Rocs. Another really good Belgian dark ale, 9%ABV, hints of plum flavor, can't find this one in the OC, either...
3. St. Sebastiaan Grand Cru. Interesting, lighter flavor than the others, but not one I'd look for back home.
4. Some other pale Belgian ale, but by then, who knows what the h*ll I was drinking... I think it was a Rodenbach Though the beer was good, for sure, it was probably the strangest night for food I've ever had. Here's a rundown of the food consumed while sampling the brews:
1. Raw octopus (pretty good, very sushi-like)
2. Raw oysters (not my thing)
3. Steamed New Zealand green mussels with plenty of garlic
4. Four kinds of German sausage + sourkraut + potato salad
5. Roast rabbit (very mild and good)
6. Grilled kangaroo ribs (ugggghhh... very gamey, like mutton from h*ll)
7. Pork knuckle (a bit stronger taste than carnitas, darker meat, but tasty) Weird... Next time, I guess we'll have to try the alligator. Hey, if anyone knows anywhere to find the Rochefort 10 in the OC, post it here please!!!! Keep riding, stay dirty (token mtb content...)
Posted by VLander a 45 year old on 11/07/04
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My fav beer!
Posted by GhostRider a 31 year old Downhiller on 08/24/07
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I had a Diabolique Cuvee last night. I believe the alcohol content is close to Delirium Nocturnum, but not quite as malty. A bit more of a pilsner type, with a nice Belgian trappist finish. One of those big bottles definitely goes a long way. Tonight is Father's Office...many good choices. Tomorrow night is James Squire Australian Amber with a couple shots of Corallejo Anejo tequila. MMMMMMMMMMMMMM.
Posted by CrzyRidr3 a 33 year old on 11/04/04
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"Tonight is Father's Office...many good choices." Ha ha ha ha ha!!! Right. ;-)
Posted by Endo Verendo on 11/08/04
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Damn it to hell!! ; )
Posted by CrzyRidr3 a 33 year old on 11/10/04
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Last night I celebrated our democracy with a La Fin Du Monde. Looking forward to FO! FO! FO! FO!
Posted by Black Bart on 11/04/04
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My suggestion is that we all view the site after finding and consuming seasonal microbrews. Anchor's Christmas Ale is still a few weeks away...but Stone opened the OAKED today...
Posted by EBasil on 11/01/04
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Tried a Diabolique from Andelot Proefbrouwerij (Belgium) over the weekend. $5.99 at TJ's for a 750ml bottle, so it's a cheap Chimay substitute.
I liked it, you may too.(just need to get this thread back up on the board)
Posted by Black Bart a 32 year old Die-hard Enthusiast from Santa Monica on 11/01/04
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I'll have to try it. Are you working all week? I'm on hiatus if you wanna ride sometime. I'm also defenitely going to FO sometime this week.
Posted by Endo Verendo on 11/01/04
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While I was attending to a loved one in the hospital, I brought with me a Guinness pub draught can. Nothing like drinking in a hospital room!
Posted by El Jefe  on 03/10/04
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Now that I have given up XC for the darkside, every beer is a good one. And there are lots more of em too. The next 24hr race is gonna be a blast.
Posted by Softy on 03/10/04
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Just got back from AZ with a six of New Belian Fat Tire and 1554 Dark Ale, Oak Creek Nut Brown and Mogollon Wapiti Amber. The inside of my fridge looks just as scenic as Sedona.
Posted by Endo Verendo on 03/15/04
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Ya gotta love a fridge with that kind of scenery. Hey Endo, if you need your refridgerater cleaned out I would be happy to oblige.
Posted by DIRTJUNKIE a 42 year old Die-hard Enthusiast riding a Intense UZZI-SL from Rancho Bernardo on 03/16/04
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Oh, this is nice. Coming home from a nice hot ride and popping open a cold Fat Tire.
Posted by Endo Verendo on 03/20/04
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Anderson Valley Hop Ottin' IPA is great stuff."Brewed from the finest hops, malted barley, hops, yeast, hops, and pristine Boonville mineral water. And hops."Weighing in at 7% Alc. by vol., it'll make you very hoppy.
Posted by Black Bart a 31 year old Die-hard Enthusiast riding a Sugar+ from Santa Monica on 04/07/04
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Are you an IPA fan? Got more you want to bust out for review?I had a mild IPA at Karl Strauss yesterday during brunch. Well, I had three, but that's only because I am a wildman drinker...or something like that. Not much as IPA's go, but it was a damn fine clean Pale Ale!
Posted by EBasil riding a Manitou HT from San Diego on 04/12/04
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Have you ever tried the Acme IPA? Not a bad one at all. Hopped a little more than a typical IPA, but very tasty with a stronger finish than you'd get out of a typical IPA.
Posted by STP a 45 year old Racer riding a K2 Razorpig from P'dale on 04/12/04
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Yes! I have two more of those in the fridge. I like the hopping for bitterness, but the Acme doesn't seem to have the aromatics it "should" for an IPA. It's a little lighter in body than many...great for tossing down in hot weather. Last night, we had them with smoked tri-tip. BevMo is our ambassador to the world!
Posted by EBasil riding a Manitou HT from San Diego on 04/12/04
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The Acme is good, but IPA over a month in bottle will start to lose any dry hop aroma (that real hoppy or citrusy nose and flavor immediately present). IPA is best very young or out of the keg so that the aroma stays with it. Tried a Hoptown IPA last night. It was an English style (use of a Burton's style yeast, producing fruity esters) and bitter. They used some of a "C" hop (prob. a Cascade) for the citrus nose to tease the fruit flavor that would fill the palate on the way down. Good. Unfortunately, it had the same lack of true hop nose like you described.
Posted by GC on 04/13/04
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I'll look up that Hoptown IPA at my local liquour store.
Posted by STP a 45 year old Racer riding a K2 Razorpig from P'dale on 04/13/04
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Agreed, had a draft Anderson IPA at The Library last night. It was, of course, better than from the bottle. Followed that with a Stone Pale Ale (I know, sorta backwards, I was thinking of going with the Bastard but one IPA on an empty stomach was already doin the trick). It took a few swigs to clear the palate, but a decent Pale Ale.
Both are excellent with the turkey meatloaf.
Posted by Black Bart on 04/14/04
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Next time you're headed to the Library, shoot me an email. I have some studying to do. nothing like meeting face to face with SoCalmtb'ers over a couple beers and some quality entertainment.
Posted by El Jefe on 04/14/04
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Just picked up a Hop Ottin at TJ's. I'm ot much of an IPA guy, but I'll check it out and get back to ya.
Posted by Endo Verendo on 04/12/04
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Review: not bad. Not as hoppy as I had expected and it had pleasantly sweet after-tones. It tasted 'lighter' than I expected. I was missing the full flavor that accompanies the bold hops in something like Arrogant Bastard. I'm not an IPA fan or know enough about them to really say yay or nay to this except that I think I need to buy another Hop Ottin or two just to make sure.
Posted by Endo Verendo on 04/14/04
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This dropped *way* to far off the list... Looking forward to EzyRider2's suds taste-fest manana. Which will become the new "session beer?" (Hate to think that FireRock will get bumped from it's current lofty position...) The suspense is killin' me...
Posted by VLander on 08/18/04
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Here's the low down; 4 levels, 3 beers each, blind taste test. Moves from low octane to high.
Round I: 'Some Light, Some Not'
Round II: 'Clash of the Pale Ales'
Round III: 'Time For Some Ass Kickers'
Round IV: 'Break Out the Dark and Nasty'This should be interesting. Suds are in the frig, and a chillin away. Gentlemen, start your taste buds.
Posted by EzyRider2 riding a BevMo Especial from Hop City, USA on 08/18/04
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Had some dogfish head 120 min IPA last night. They had a note on the chalkboard at the bar that it was the strongest beer in the world at 24.6% ABV. Lol. It was actually quite good, surprisingly! It better be at $13/12oz bottle. I doubt you'd need to drink more than one at a sitting though.
Posted by Mudpuppy a 31 year old Weekend Warrior riding a Cannondale F400 from Southbay on 04/15/04
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Hey, we were talking about this brew not too long ago. When I called Dogfish, they couldn't come up with anywhere in California that distributed or "has" the 120min IPA. Where'd you get to try it?
Posted by EBasil riding a Manitou HT from San Diego on 04/15/04
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I was at a place near the Redondo Beach pier called Najas. They have quite a selection there... http://www.redondo.com/business/najas.html
Posted by Mudpuppy a 31 year old Weekend Warrior riding a Cannondale F400 from Southbay on 04/15/04
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Gotta love Najas...on a similar note-- Lucky Baldwins has a Barleywine Festival that runs from the 17th to the 25th. Stone Old Guardian on tap, Bigfoot, etc. See ya'll there.
Posted by Surly a 28 year old Die-hard Enthusiast riding a '02 Giant AC from Pasadena on 04/18/04
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Check out Liquid Solutions on the web. Lots of good stuff, a bit pricey, but if you want it, they got it!!
Posted by IMTony a 37 year old Die-hard Enthusiast riding a Intense Tracer, SLX and Spot SS from Temecula on 04/18/04
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Found it. Yeah, $8.75 for a 12 oz. of the Dogfish 120 IS steep. Amazing beer list, though. I will have to go back and play on that site sometime. Thanks for the tip!
Posted by EBasil riding a Manitou HT from San Diego on 04/19/04
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Ok,
My favorite current beers are:Lagunitas-The Kronic (Censored) Rich Copper Ale and 7.7%ABV. Careful with this one, you can't taste the alcohol at all. Rich carmel taste and verrrrrryyyyy smoooov... 040404 Stone Vertical Epic - A good, young, Abbey Trippel with a kick of lime and citrusy flavors. Should age very well if you can keep from drinking it!! 8.5%ABV and very tastey, if you can find it, buy as much as you can and let it age... Lastly, besides the usual suspects (Ruination IPA and Double Bastard) I tried a Moylans Kilt Lifter, Scotch Ale. Very good, strong chocolate and caramel scents, and great warm mouthfeel. Not particulary bitter or complex, but very, very, drinkable; but, at 8% ABV, you might be advised to go easy!!
Posted by IMTony a 37 year old Die-hard Enthusiast riding a Intense Tracer, SLX and Spot SS from Temecula on 04/18/04
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all very good brews! I went to pick up some Vertical Epic & my local Bristol Farms told me they got ONE case and one guy bought 6 and a chick came in the next day and bought the other 6 (should I have asked if she was single???) no Vert for me, unless I can find more in another shop on the Westside...
Posted by Macrider a 37 year old Die-hard Enthusiast riding a Turner RFX, XCE & Trek Bruiser 2 from LA on 04/19/04
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I have to admit, I won't be laying these down to wait for the intended Vertical Epic consumption method. That's fun, but I just don't have the refrigerator to dedicate to the right temperatures for several years. I've been using a one-year rule, to let the ales settle-in, because I don't think they'll be near to the intended result when consumed in the year of their labeling.I did multi-year laydowns of Thomas Hardy, Sierra Nevada Celebration and several homebrews in the 80/90's but my folks won't let me monopolize their spare fridge anymore.
Posted by EBasil riding a Manitou HT from San Diego on 04/19/04
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Tons in OC at Bev Mo. Haven't tried it yet, too young to drink. Cellaring a few bottles for a bit...
Posted by GC on 04/19/04
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The Guinness-bike, as reported in BRAIN: 
Posted by EBasil riding a Manitou HT from San Diego on 04/20/04
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Sad news in the beer world: Today it was announced that Canada's Sleeman Breweries is acquiring Unibroue: http://www.unibroue.com/brewery/040420.pdf To me, this is not encouraging news. Sleeman is Canada's third largest brewer, although considerably smaller than Molson and Labatt. They brew several beers that are unremarkable to my taste and have the distribution rights to a number of import brands in Canada. Unibroue is unique in North American brewing, with its own distinctive Quebecois attitude and accent, and brews several outstanding Belgian styles that have rather wide distribution in Canada and the US. I might look upon the deal more favorably if Sleeman had acquired the rights only to distribute the Unibroue beers in English-speaking Canada, but Sleeman's attitude about beer in general is much less experimental and you have to wonder if the innovation in styles will continue. C'est la vie, as I'm sure someone is saying.
Posted by GC on 04/20/04
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Noooo! Well, as long as they keep brewing Maudite I will be happy.
Posted by Mudpuppy a 31 year old Weekend Warrior riding a Cannondale F400 from Southbay on 04/21/04
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Their history of acquisition and brand consolidation may mean the end to some of those great beers. Every brewery/brand they've touched has been "dumbed down" for mass markets or eliminated.
Posted by GC on 04/21/04
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Although this might seem like a bad thing, a crappy beer producer buying a great beer producer, Sleeman will probably not change any of Unibroues beer formulas. If they wanted to make more crappy beer they would probably just expand their current production facility or buy another crappy beer brand. These mergers have been a happening alot in the wine world and usually it is for the better, unless the company is bought by Gallo, then it goes to crap.
Posted by Uhkuhjillion a 28 year old Cross-Country riding a a Jereboam of Arogant Bastard from Pasadena on 04/21/04
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You've hit it on the head, Steelman is the Gallo of beers. They are known for sliming lines down to only the most pedestrian and killing styles and techniques of good breweries like Le Signeurale and Upper Canada (other breweries that they've purchased and dumbed down). This is akin to Miller buying Stone.
Posted by GC on 04/21/04
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Alrighty.... I know it's only 2pm on a Thursday afternoon but I had a six pack in the fridge staring at me. And what better to go with a hummus platter for lunch than an Avery White Rascal served in a Belgian glass. Simple and to the point- tastes like Chimay but at a fraction of the price. Maybe a slightly less sweet and a bit more hops and do I dare say I like this better?. It's brewed with coriander and orange peel, but you could have fooled me as they're no where on my palate. I give it two thumbs up. Ok, back to work.
Posted by Endo Verendo riding a early afternoon buzz on 04/22/04
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Great idea. I think I'll have a schwarzbier and go pee on the lawn for Earth Day. All will be right with the world...
Posted by GC on 04/22/04
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Can we load lemons into the pneumatic tube gun and fire them at the wall? That would be a great way to celebrate as well!!! :-)
Posted by El Jefe on 04/22/04
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Only after having a few beers. Weapons like that are only safe after drinking. ;) I'll have to get a couple more out of aging for more shooting, though. Cream Ale? Stouts? IPA's? Yep, all 18 kegs are filled... Hey, are you going? I'll be there with my club...good stuff: http://www.calhomebrewers.org/event.html
Posted by GC on 04/22/04
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Updated link. Oh yeah, why fire at the wall when that sucker will go a good 300 yards? The wall is way too close. ;)
Posted by GC on 04/22/04
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What the hell is going on here? How could this thread get pushed down so far? Have we no new beer stories? No new beer discoveries? My new regimen is to grab a big bottle of Chimay and a 220z bottle of Arrogant Bastard. I drink the Chimay first, bathing in the delicate beauty of the fruity yeast esters and the rich malt. Then I grab that Arrogant Bastard and slice my taste buds wide open with the raw elegance of the hoppy treasure.
Posted by El Jefe on 04/27/04
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Is that breakfast, lunch or dinner? lol
Posted by Mudpuppy a 31 year old Weekend Warrior riding a Cannondale F400 from Southbay on 04/27/04
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I just discovered I pissed off my neighbor Sat. night from being a sloppy drunk; again. You were playing guitar, and I was rambling and offended someone with a song I just made up. Do you remember that part? Sloppy sloppy sloppy. I have no control, but stories nonetheless. :)
Posted by Lagwagon on 04/27/04
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Dude, that song was hilarious. Of course your yelling and laughing and flopping around on the ground like a wounded walrus probably had nothing to do with the neighbor getting pissed off, right? :-) BTW, Mudpuppy- that's for all three meals and my late night snack.
Posted by El Jefe on 04/27/04
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May I have your attention please...... Avery Brewing Co's Old Jubilation Ale tastes like Arrogant Bastard but I like it better. Head over to BevMo, then discuss.
Posted by Endo Verendo on 04/27/04
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Ah yes, but it is members only (not the jacket) at the CA Homebrew Fest tonight. Trick or Treat from club to club to sample their best....oh yeah, it is free. Opening day (and closing day) is tomorrow. Stone's master brewer is usually there as well as other greats with their private reserve to sample. Should be a good weekend.....I just hope I remember it. ;)
Posted by GC on 04/30/04
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Do you want some company? I am a Food Scientist who will give you a solid opinion; even after hours and hours of sampling. ;) (I'm jealous, sounds fun)
Posted by Lagwagon on 04/30/04
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Just picked up some Deschutes Obsidian Stout fron BevMo (and some roasted salsa) Don't hate the drinka.
Posted by EzyRider2 riding a tall glass of pleasure from around here somewhere on 04/30/04
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Care to comment on that Obsidian Stout? :)
Posted by Lagwagon on 05/03/04
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Ah yes, very good times. If you can make it next year, it is worth the trip. I had some private stash of some great brewers. Amazing beers. Around the campfire one night one of our new found friends broke out the past six years of Big Foot Barleywine from Sierra Nevada. We opened them up, year by year, and all sampled the aged barleywines and compared the differences. '97 was a good year. Just a short list of the amazing beers we sampled:
orange blossom porter
a vanilla belgian
an amazing tripple
a couple of really good IPA's
milk stout
many good meads All were done by homebrewers or pros' homemade stash. There was one really interesting contraption there that I had read about from Dogfish Head. They had made a "hop filter" that would force beer through about six pounds of hops just prior to serving. It did add some aroma, but what it added took away in coldness, as it wasn't a chilled unit. Interesting concept but I think the basic technique of dry hopping is more effective. Great times and good beers, not to mention a fantastic learning experience if you brew or like good beer.
Posted by GC on 05/03/04
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Sweet! How can I be your friend? ;) I could really get into a weekend like that. The head brewmaster at SLO Brewing Co. and I were going through our senior year Food Science classes up at Cal Poly SLO. I would help him brew for SLO brewery and home brew too. Ahhh, so much fun. We would visit the Wildhorse Winery in Paso Robles, and brew beer by the keg! We would heat up the wort under a big burner in a keg, and do it that way; by the keg... Then, we would of course sample it with many others and have ourselves a very good time. I need to get back into that personally. It is a great hobby to get into, especially when you know what is happening in the process. Thanks for sharing, I am sure many people here wish they were there. If you have more info, please post it. :D
Posted by Lagwagon on 05/03/04
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The more the merrier, bro. Come on down. A buddy of mine organizes it and they are moving it to Vail Lake next year, which will be a huge imporvement. Man, brewing at a winery....what could be better. Yep, keg as a kettle is the only way to go. I brew in a keg and it just makes it so much easier. Let's get you back in! For a couple of peppers (cherry and jalepeno spread) I could be convinced to help with the learning curve. ;)
Posted by GC riding a A big wheel from Anaslime Hills on 05/03/04
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Oregons Full Sail Ale is great! :) Purchased at Trader Joe's for $5.99. More info for your reading pleasure: The Full Sail brewery is located in Hood River, Oregon, in the scenic Columbia River Gorge. Known for its ripping winds, endless mountain bike trails, fast water, and deep snow, the region is "The Adrenaline Capital of the
Northwest". At Full Sail, we have been making great beer since 1987. We liked our beer so much, that in 1999 we bought the brewery! With each beer we brew comes a promise of quality that only an owner can give. Full Sail Celebrates Another First (Hood River, OR) The employees at Full Sail Brewing Company are rolling out the barrels to celebrate yet another first. The ESOP (Employee Stock Ownership Plan) buyout was finalized July 2, 1999, making Full Sail America's first and only (ESOP) employee-owned brewery, the company announced today.
Full Sail is the only brewery to have ever been named to the "Best 100 Companies to Work For, in Oregon" list by Oregon Business Magazine and have maintained that distinction for five consecutive years. Full Sail brews a line of handcrafted ales and lagers including the award-winning Full Sail Amber, Pale and Rip Curl Ale, as well four seasonal brews. Full Sail is available in 15 western states: Alaska, Arizona, California, Colorado, Hawaii, Idaho, Montana, Minnesota, Nevada, New Mexico, Oklahoma, Oregon, Texas, Washington and Wyoming. Full Sail Brewing Co.
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Why I love DeSchutes in many of ways. Quail Springs IPA. Great start, bitter. Then straight to fruit as Burton's strain of yeast kicks in. Still more hops. The only thing it is missing is a solid dry hop (aroma), as discussed before, which can only happen in a keg. Besides the dry hop, the only really disappointing part of this IPA is the low % @ 5.8. For an IPA that is pretty low. Most hover in the 7% or above range. Darned good beer, though, and I've never had a bad one from DeSchutes.
Posted by GC on 05/07/04
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Deschutes does not make a bad beer. Plus, they sponsor mountain bikers. I contacted them about that and they without any prompting sent me a bunch of shwag, leather coasters, bike water bottles, bottle openers stickers, ect. Maybe they knew when I was in Bend last I spent excessive amounts of time at the brewery. They also have these fixe price dinners pairing their beers with various xlnt cuisine on a semi-monthly basis. Not just one beer and a plate of chow. Several courses with a different brew to match. We need a place like that in SoCal. Karl Strauss is ok but it ain't Deschutes. Not even close. GC you got me thinking.
Posted by Mike Kim on 05/20/04
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Well, if you want to think aloud, drop me a line. I might be able to help your ideas along.
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Hmm, also my birthday month. Coincidence? I think not. :-D
Posted by El Jefe on 05/20/04
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Gee, you're 13 going on 8...again. Thanks for the reminder.
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End of the fiscal year, same day as the anniversary of Kobe's indiscretion in Colorado and same day as Mike Tyson's Birthday....June 30.
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I sampled a little Vertical Epic (this year's release) yesterday. Very young tasting, could use some time to mature, but still a very pleasant brew. A very light, almost lacy head appears after a soft pour, with the bubbles rising slowly. It seems on initial taste that there is still some bottle conditioning, perhaps a little more noticable fermenting to do, as the first taste is just a bit harsh and over the top. The yeast flavors play a bit heavy compared to the malt and hops flavors, very different than most Stone creations where the hops take the spotlight. The yeast flavors are quite similar to a belgian tripel, some vanilla and pineapple, almost a bubblegum taste at times, countered by a bit of lemon-lime and some clove. The heavy alcohol keeps the beer from sitting on the tongue too long, and helps it feel clean and refreshing. I definitely would call this a very young, immature beer, that will likely develop some serious character in a couple years. Still, I could toss back a couple 22oz bottles on a hot day, and then bask in a drunken stupor under a warm southern California sun.
Posted by El Jefe a 34 year old riding a Santa Cruz V10 and Blur, Kona Stinky, and a SS Kona Cowan from Trabuco Canyon on 06/01/04
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We drank our 02,03 and 04 Verts on Saturday, because we needed to make room...ending the "laydown program" with finality. Nice writeup on the 04. I can only generally agree, and would add that the 02 and 03 improved mightily over their wait (I used to laydown beers quite a bit and think the first two years are the "sprint" section of the process),and that 04 shouldn't have been opened yet.
Posted by EBasil riding a Manitou HT from San Diego on 06/01/04
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I have one in the fridge I'll drink soon just for fun, but I'll pick up 2 more to laydown for a couple years. I can't see waiting till 12-12-2012 to drink it, but a couple years should do some wonderful things.
Posted by El Jefe on 06/02/04
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Jeff, please pick up a few extras for me - I can't find it up here anywhere....
Posted by Macrider a 37 year old Die-hard Enthusiast riding a Turner RFX, XCE & Trek Bruiser 2 from LA on 06/02/04
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Will do. I found it for about $6 a bottle, about a buck less than other places. They kep it refridgerated and in a dark area, so no light contamination will occur. I'll swing by there this evening.
Posted by El Jefe on 06/02/04
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Perfect, I'll even try not to drink them for a while...
Posted by Macrider a 37 year old Die-hard Enthusiast riding a Turner RFX, XCE & Trek Bruiser 2 from LA on 06/02/04
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Wow, just checked my spelling and typing on that last post...not so good. I have a bad case of allergies going on right now that is causing my eyes to swell badly, so I typed that last post with my eyes closed....again, not so good. Anyway, I'd planned on keeping both bottles stored for a while, but that idea lasted about 10 minutes, and I caved on the first bottle. (closing my swollen eyes, having a few beers and listening to some music, was quite nice this weekend). I think if I buy a whole bunch, I can keep at least one for next year...I think I can, I think I can...
Posted by El Jefe on 06/02/04
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mmmmm....Chimay. Good stuff. There are too many good beers out there to pick just one "best," but along with Chimay I'd have to include Guinness, Arogant Bastard, Icicle Creek Stout (from Oregon.) And Oggi's Black Magic Stout is surprisingly good - dark and chocolaty. Yum.
Posted by Blackwell a 35 year old Weekend Warrior riding a Tomac -Shooter from Mission Viejo on 05/25/04
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I hit Oggi's once in a while, and all of their of age staff hits my bar at least a couple times a week. Russ hooks me up with the Black Magic...good stuff indeed.
Posted by El Jefe a 34 year old riding a Santa Cruz V10 and Blur, Kona Stinky, and a SS Kona Cowan from Trabuco Canyon on 05/25/04
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Kelly McCue's in Mission Viejo. I'm only there on Sunday nights as a bartender, and I typically hang out there on Monday nights to play at open mic night...this Summer I'll be hosting open mic night where musicians come in and play and people drink beer. Good fun.
Posted by El Jefe a 34 year old riding a Santa Cruz V10 and Blur, Kona Stinky, and a SS Kona Cowan from Trabuco Canyon on 05/26/04
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Hmm.. you play guitar too I see.
Interesting. Presuming you are a righty, do you guard your left hand in crashes?
Posted by Mike Kim on 05/26/04
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Nope. In fact I broke my left index finger about a month ago. I just taped it up for a couple weeks and had to avoid certain chord progressions till the swelling went down, but I keep plucking away. Still a little swollen and tender, but I heal quickly.
Posted by El Jefe a 34 year old riding a Santa Cruz V10 and Blur, Kona Stinky, and a SS Kona Cowan from Trabuco Canyon on 05/26/04
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You should have re-phrased your question "Where do you tend to your wounds?" :-)
Posted by Endo Verendo on 05/26/04
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You just shut up. You're right, but shut up anyway. ;-)
Posted by El Jefe a 34 year old riding a Santa Cruz V10 and Blur, Kona Stinky, and a SS Kona Cowan from Trabuco Canyon on 05/26/04
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I didn't think they had any "of age" staff - they look like a bunch of high school kids. I think I'm just getting old.
Posted by Blackwell a 35 year old Weekend Warrior riding a Tomac 6-Shooter from Mission Viejo on 05/26/04
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Well, many are under-age, but quite a few are over 21. You're getting old brah.
Posted by El Jefe a 34 year old riding a Santa Cruz V10 and Blur, Kona Stinky, and a SS Kona Cowan from Trabuco Canyon on 05/26/04
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I was in Performance the other day and noted they've got a Canari jersey for Oggi's Sunset Red.
Posted by EBasil riding a Manitou HT from San Diego on 06/01/04
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Picked up a sixer of Mendocino Brewing Company's "Eye of the Hawk" from TJ's yesterday, had one after my ride last night. First impression was that it was not as flavorful as I was expecting and just a tad on the flat side. This one packs an 8% punch though, so while enjoying my second one I forgot about its shortfalls and decided it was a pretty darn good beer. :^D
Posted by Black Bart a 31 year old Die-hard Enthusiast riding a Sugar+ and a Schwinn Cruiser Seven from Santa Monica on 05/26/04
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I can also speak of shoulder injury, eating, drinking and fatness. Hey, Vertical Epic down here for ya brah, when ya coming to get it?
Posted by El Jefe on 06/04/04
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no WAY brah! you are gonna win whatever new horror show in Aliso is coming up, remember? or will you instead build up the new V-10 and stack it high & hard? We're all on the edge of our seats here brah! Gonna have to work on getting down there and pick up the Vert before you decide to "de-cellar" it ;-)
Posted by Macrider a 37 year old Die-hard Enthusiast riding a Turner RFX, XCE & Trek Bruiser 2 from LA on 06/04/04
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Well, we all know how good I am at rapid, unplanned "de-cellar-ation."...isn't that how I got the nickname "HLD?" ;-)
Posted by El Jefe on 06/04/04
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Hey! I know this guy that knows funny.....
Posted by Macrider a 37 year old Die-hard Enthusiast riding a Turner RFX, XCE & Trek Bruiser 2 from LA on 06/04/04
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Yeah, but does he know how to rebuild a King hub?
Posted by El Jefe on 06/04/04
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Don't be bustin' on King hubs if you want to come to "clear out the keggerator 3" beer-fest and bbq. ;) Yes, this includes a ride, a cream ale, a rye IPA, a bitter IPA, that chocolate stout, the dry stout and a hoppy nut brown. Dates TBA.
Posted by GC on 06/04/04
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OK, sorry.
Posted by El Jefe on 06/04/04
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Yeah, separated shoulder. Is there a site or forum just for discussing eating, drinking and gaining weight? You know, preferably one that doesn't have "cliques" or stray off into other topics, like mountain biking or politics?
Posted by Black Bart a 31 year old Die-hard Enthusiast riding a Heley&Weber sling and a Schwinn Cruiser Seven from Santa Monica on 06/04/04
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That was my other guess, I may still be a little hazy from hitting my head, vicodin, etc... Is it time for beer yet? :)
Posted by Black Bart a 31 year old Die-hard Enthusiast riding a Heley&Weber sling and a Schwinn Cruiser Seven from Santa Monica on 06/04/04
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Yes. I think I'll start with a Drop Top, move to a Guinness, have one of the Vertical Epic bottles I bought for Macrider, then move on to another Guinness. Commence drnking!
Posted by El Jefe on 06/04/04
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"My advice to you is to start drinking heavily." "Better listen to him, he's pre-med."
Posted by Black Bart a 31 year old Die-hard Enthusiast riding a Heley&Weber sling and a Schwinn Cruiser Seven from Santa Monica on 06/04/04
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Oh hush. PS-I left my Guinness for a little while, in favor of some other tasty libations, but I must say that last night I re-acquainted myself with an old friend...Ahhhhh, Guinness.
Posted by El Jefe on 06/08/04
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Oh YEAH? Well, my new G5 can crush your little iBook! (Seriously, it's like 50 lbs.) :^)
Posted by Black Bart a 31 year old Die-hard Enthusiast riding a Heley&Weber sling and a Schwinn Cruiser Seven from Santa Monica on 06/08/04
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"Eggless Egg Salad"? WTF? I said WTF!?
Posted by Old Heckler on 06/09/04
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His shorts are nutless, too.
Posted by ReFleXx on 06/09/04
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If you've never had Trader Joes Eggless Egg Salad you should STFU.
Posted by Endo Verendo riding a Pushed 4-Spot from The Valley on 06/10/04
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Gee, I prefer "egg" in my egg salad. Thanks. No need to get testy, jobless one.
Posted by Old Heckler on 06/10/04
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you DO need to get some work, don't ya? that is an empty fridge bro... despite what the HLD will tell you, beer, beer & more beer is not a "healthy part of a balanced diet"
Posted by Macrider a 37 year old Die-hard Enthusiast riding a Turner RFX, XCE & Trek Bruiser 2 from LA on 06/09/04
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Ok, about my blog.... I just got a new iBook and due to some new 'digi cam etiquette' with the new machine I inadvertantly zapped my memory stick. So all the pics I was going to Blog are now in heaven. Ok, now Beer.... Marin Brewing's Eldridge Grade Double IPA: Ya'll know I'm not an IPA fan, but this stuff's the sh!t. Not overly hoppy as I thought and the 8% ABV makes it extra special. That and the mountain bike theme make this is a great after ride beer. (BevMo)
Posted by Endo Verendo riding a Pushed 4-Spot from The Valley on 06/04/04
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speaking of beer...I make some delicious spaghetti carbanara last night & washed it down with a Stone Barley Wine - that sh*t is DOPE! (in both meanings - killed a big bottle and was well on my way to loopey) very tasty brew - I'm looking forward to Monday's release of the Imperial Stout - one of my fav's!
Posted by Macrider a 37 year old Die-hard Enthusiast riding a Turner RFX, XCE & Trek Bruiser 2 from LA on 06/11/04
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My trip to the store this evening included the following: 3 bottles of Stone Vertical Epic
1 bottle of Stone Barley Wine
1 bottle of Stone Smoked Porter
1 bottle of Stone Ruination IPA. What to drink tonight? Ahhh, decisions decisions....and a $32+ 6 pack....that packs one helluva punch! :-)
Posted by El Jefe on 06/11/04
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Yeah, but tell me you only drank 3 of those... Unless you implemented that "coors refilling" idea you mentioned in another thread. Maybe toss a spring of rosemary and some black pepper in there, too, just to make sure it's extra tasty in a few years?
Posted by EBasil a old year old riding a Mass-Produced Bikle from San Diego on 06/14/04
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Where are you buying the Sonora brews?
Posted by EBasil riding a Manitou HT to BevMo from San Diego on 06/04/04
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Found 'em at TJ's.
Posted by Black Bart a 31 year old Die-hard Enthusiast riding a Heley&Weber sling and a Schwinn Cruiser Seven from Santa Monica on 06/04/04
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I did, too. Thanks, bud.
Posted by EBasil riding a Manitou HT from San Diego on 06/08/04
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http://www.arrogantbastard.com/animated/index.html
Posted by Mytrustysteed on 06/14/04
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that is HOT!
Posted by Macrider a 37 year old Die-hard Enthusiast riding a Turner RFX, XCE & Trek Bruiser 2 from LA on 06/14/04
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Best Beer I hit the boards. "Silly people. Beer is just a drink, not a religion." ...or so I thought. Best Beer II, III, IV went by. "Okay, so this is getting ridiculous." GAL, beerheads... Best Beer V arrives. "Well, maybe I'll have to do a little research, see what all the fuss is about." Now, this is what my extra fridge in the garage looks like:
 Current stock: Chimay Red Ale, Sierra Nevada Summerfest Lager, Sierra Nevada Pale Ale, Buffalo Bill's Orange Blossom Cream Ale, Bass Ale, Blue Moon Belgian White Ale, Red Hook ESB, Pacifico, Pete's Strawberry Blonde, Pete's Wicked Ale, Stone IPA, Stone Pale Ale. Conspicuously absent: Celebrator Dopplebock, my current fave. (I get home from BevMo and it mysteriously disappears in front of my eyes!) Life used to be so simple: triple espresso in the morning, triple espresso after lunch, a Pacifico or two on the weekend, occasional margarita with a nice Mexi meal. Now, I find myself daydreaming at work... imagining the taste of a full-flavored ale running down my throat ...sniffing the fine chocolatey aroma of my favorite dopplebock ...imagining it swirling around in my mouth after that first sip... I hate you all!!!
Posted by VLander a 45 year old riding a 5* from Viejoland on 06/14/04
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Ahh hah , I got you back for giving me a sickness too, the MHC. Some how I think you still won. 4 0f 10 and counting. Eric AKA Blow Bijou
Posted by Softy on 06/14/04
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THere's way too many non-alcoholic beverages in there.
Posted by ReFleXx on 06/15/04
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Welcome to the dark side.
Posted by El Jefe on 06/15/04
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Hey VLander, care to make a side wager on the SSDoP? That bottle of Chimay is looking pretty tasty....
Posted by El Jefe on 06/15/04
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Dear Sir, Please remove the Mexican piss-beer from the rear corner of the top shelf in your fridge ASAP. There is danger in that it may suck all flavor from your other, much more superior, beers. Thank you,
The Hop Police
Posted by GC on 06/16/04
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(not defending Pacifico) but with Mexican food? I do like XX Amber or Negro Modelo.... mmmmm, Carnitas at Sabrosso and a couple of cold XX on tap...soooo good!
Posted by Macrider a 37 year old Die-hard Enthusiast riding a Turner RFX, XCE & Trek Bruiser 2 from LA on 06/16/04
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Ahhhh...Negro Modelo. Si. uno mas por favor.
Posted by El Jefe on 06/16/04
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I was in AZ over the weekend and payed a visit to the Rio Salado Brewery. Every Saturday at 1pm, president and brewmaster Tim Gossack, former brewmaster at Deschutes Brewery in Bend, Oregon, leads a brewery tour and tasting. This guy really knows his stuff when it comes to the history of beer and how it's made, much more informative (and tastier) than some Budweiser brewery tour. In addition to being an owner/brewer, he is also a judge for the Great American Beer Festival and the World Beer Cup. The tour and samples are free (8 kinds last weekend) as long as it's your first tour, or you bring someone new. Happy hour (no food served) 'til 6, open until 11 on most nights. Minutes from South Mountain, so you can work it into a riding weekend!
(I also understand Tim sponsors some MTB racers)
Posted by Black Bart a 31 year old Die-hard Enthusiast riding a Heley&Weber sling and a Schwinn Cruiser Seven from Santa Monica on 06/15/04
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Well, starting at 5:30 a.m. would give you 7.5 hours of riding before the brewery opens, sounds about right to me... :) Or, just keep it in mind for the fall.
Posted by Black Bart a 31 year old Die-hard Enthusiast riding a Heley&Weber sling and a Schwinn Cruiser Seven from Santa Monica on 06/16/04
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speaking of recovered enough - I'm hurting this morning! Father's Office last night - started with "Horny Devil" - 10.8%! - VERY tasty Belgian-style tripple! - moved on to Merdasous 8% - also quite good, slight hint of chocolate - enjoyed it with the burger & fries (still the best burger around - no ketchup, thanks). Then a Chimay (it's on tap! how can you resist?) - and finished up with somebody's "White Sage" beer - delicious! actually brewed with white sage - it should be the official beer of the Santa Monicas since it smells like the chaparal after it rains....so tasty
but man that combo of strong beers is hurting this morning!
Posted by Macrider a 37 year old Die-hard Enthusiast riding a Turner RFX, XCE & Trek Bruiser 2 from LA on 06/17/04
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Chimay on tap... hmmm, do they agitate the keg to incorporate the yeast sediment, or is that all blown out in the first few pours? Part of the appeal of Chimay for me is the yeast. You know what? I should investigate this myself.... :-)
Posted by El Jefe on 06/17/04
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Please apply for a 310 pass ASAP.;-)
Thank you have a good day.
Paz Afuera
Posted by Papisimo on 06/17/04
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I have a yeast infection, can you investigate that for me, pretty please.
Posted by Adri Anne on 06/17/04
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LOL. I had a girlfriend who got yeast infections from drinking too much Widmer Hefewiezen. Take some acidophilus!
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it's good, that's all I know yes, investigate at will - but leave the ketchup in the OC... I think the white sage was from Pasadena - if it was this, no wonder I was toasted - another tripple in disguise! http://www.worldofbeer.com/totm/totm-200103.html
Posted by Macrider a 37 year old Die-hard Enthusiast riding a Turner RFX, XCE & Trek Bruiser 2 from LA on 06/17/04
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Certainly a good turn. About a month ago, I was out with buddies, wives and girlfriends for a dinner/drinkin/dancin night and knew my fizzy-beer buddies would try to make me exceed a reputed 2-beer limit, so I used preemptive strategy and bought the first round...of Black & Tans, which we stuck with all night. Worked out well, and they liked 'em. Friday, at a beer-tasting party, one of them mentioned that now he orders black-n-tans or Guiness at bars with his work buddies, because "it's like a meal in a glass". (Reminded me of an ad campaign, I think.) Mission 1, accomplished.
Posted by EBasil riding a Manitou HT from San Diego on 06/21/04
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I love hearing people say "Oh no, I don't like Guinness, it's too thick." I then ask if they've ever tried it. "No, but it just looks thick..." Then they sip the tasty brew, and most often come away saying "wow, that's not nearly what I thought it would be..." followed often by "that's pretty good." OK, sometimes they hand it back and cringe, and sometimes they like it so much that they run away with my beer and I have to go get another. I am an ambassador for the nation of Guinness.
Posted by El Jefe on 06/21/04
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it's got so much more flavor in Ireland & Great Britain - why is that? - do they make it different for export to the US?
Posted by Macrider a 37 year old Die-hard Enthusiast riding a Turner RFX, XCE & Trek Bruiser 2 from LA on 06/21/04
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Guinness is brewed multiple places in the world now, and I'm not sure where the Guinness we drink here is brewed...could just be that transport and storage makes it less yummy. Oh yeah, speaking of Guinness brewery, it reminds me of a story: An Accident at the Guinness Brewery Mary O'Malley is home making dinner, as usual, when Patrick Finnegan arrives at her door. "Mary, may I come in?" he asks. "I've sometin' to tell ya." "Of course you can come in, you're always welcome, Patrick. But where's me husband?" "That's what I'm here to be tellin' ya, Mary. There was an accident down at the Guinness brewery..." "Oh, God no!" cries Mary. "Please don't tell me..." "I must, Mary. Your husband Shamus is dead and gone. I'm sorry." Finally, she looked up at Patrick. "How did it happen, Patrick?" "It was terrible, Mary. He fell into a vat of Guinness Stout and drowned." "Oh dear Jesus! But you must tell me true, Patrick. Did he go quickly?" "Well, I'm afraid no Mary, ... they say he got out three times to pee."
Posted by El Jefe on 06/21/04
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you do the math....
Posted by Macrider a 37 year old Die-hard Enthusiast riding a Turner RFX, XCE & Trek Bruiser 2 from LA on 06/21/04
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Speaking of math, add this to your equation: FY ;-)
Posted by El Jefe on 06/21/04
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Forever Yours. How ....cute.
Posted by ReFleXx on 06/21/04
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That's virtually EXACTLY how it goes for me, too. Well, except that nobody gets away with my beer. I may be decrepit, but I have very developed forearms.
Posted by EBasil riding a beerwagon to hades from San Diego on 06/21/04
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I drink for free, so it's ok when people run off with it. I mean, it is better to give a pint and create a fan for life, than to horde my (free) pint and lose the chance at converting someone to the "dark side." I'll ignore the developed forearms statement....for now.
Posted by El Jefe on 06/21/04
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Did Fathers Day with the family down at Sea World where they serve free Anheiser Busch samples. Tried their version of Guiness, nitrogen charged even. I'm sure you can all guess what it tasted like. Needless to say I had to wash it down with some Michelob Ultra.
Posted by Endo Verendo riding a Pushed 4-Spot from The Valley on 06/21/04
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so it's your favorite beer, right Lane? are you also dressing up as a girl? along with pretending to be one with your handle Matt/Ghost/etc. etc. etc. ad nauseum....?
Posted by Macrider a 37 year old Die-hard Enthusiast riding a Turner RFX, XCE & Trek Bruiser 2 from LA on 06/21/04
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I only have two handles: GhostRider and Gringo. If you want to discuss this further you can email me.
Posted by GhostRider on 06/21/04
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""Michelob Ultra." How extremely lame." Yes, thanks for re-stating my obvious point.
Posted by Endo Verendo riding a Pushed 4-Spot from The Valley on 06/21/04
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We went through that desperate "Beer School" just once...and it was so dumbed down and bland that it wasn't worth the free minibuzz. Hey, but how's a guy to know unless he checks it out?
Posted by EBasil riding a trike on the highway to hell from San Diego on 06/21/04
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Well, since it was a family trip I had to down as many samples as I possibly could and get my buzz on quick.
Posted by Endo Verendo riding a Pushed 4-Spot from The Valley on 06/21/04
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Did you have some "meatless" hot dogs to go with your eggless egg salad?
Posted by SheRides on 06/22/04
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New "Beer School" in San Diego County: Stone plans $10 million brewery in Escondido
By David Washburn
UNION-TRIBUNE STAFF WRITER
June 22, 2004 Stone Brewing Co. announced plans yesterday to build a $10 million brewery in Escondido's new business park. The 50,000-square-foot facility, scheduled to open late next year in the Escondido Research and Technology Center, will make it possible for the brewery to produce six times as much beer as it does now, said Stone co-founder and CEO Greg Koch. Known for its Arrogant Bastard Ale, Stone is the largest brewery in San Diego with an output of 34,000 barrels a year. With its new facility, the company will have the capacity for more than 200,000 barrels a year. But Koch, who announced the company's plans at a news conference with Escondido city leaders, said he is in no rush to meet that goal. "Growing to 200,000 is not important," he said. "Continuing to brew beer that meets our standards is what dictates the growth." Koch also wants the brewery to be more accessible to beer lovers. The current San Marcos location is only open to the public for a few hours on the weekends, and visitors must dodge forklifts on their tours. The new brewery will offer tours and tastings six days a week and may also serve food. "We are expecting to become a leading tourist destination in North County," Koch said.
Posted by SheRides on 06/22/04
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Best news all week!
Posted by Macrider a 37 year old Die-hard Enthusiast riding a Turner RFX, XCE & Trek Bruiser 2 from LA on 06/22/04
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Darn, still too far away. And not even on my way down to SD.
Posted by Endo Verendo riding a Pushed 4-Spot from The Valley on 06/22/04
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A quick left on the I-78, roll across to the brewery, then a right turn on southbound I-15 to San Diego, proper. If these guys get a brewpub license, it could be deadly.
Posted by EBasil riding a Manitou HT from San Diego on 06/22/04
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I get wood and you give me a sock? No thanks, a tissue will be fine.
Posted by El Jefe on 06/22/04
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Those are special, but you can't drink them.
Posted by GC on 06/22/04
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"...the founders of Stone have put the word out to other microbrewers that the 26,500-square-foot space off of Rancheros Drive, along with all the equipment, will soon be up for grabs." Along with all the equipment. Okay, three things: 1) who's gonna step up and go hardcore with the homebrewing?
2) will another brewer locate in San Marcos?
3) don't sweat it...Stone's transferring operations to all new equipment when they move, so there's no downtime.
Posted by EBasil riding a Russian Imperial Stout buzz from San Diego on 07/06/04
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"...the founders of Stone have put the word out to other microbrewers that the 26,500-square-foot space off of Rancheros Drive, along with all the equipment, will soon be up for grabs." I'm going to commit this sentence to memory, and shout it while touching myself.
Posted by El Jefe a 35 year old riding a Santa Cruz V10 and Blur, Kona Stinky, and a SS Kona Cowan from Trabuco Canyon on 07/06/04
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What I meant to say was... Old habits die hard: my favorite of all the Belgian ales I love is still Orval, a Trappist ale. In my "screw around on the net for lunch" break, I decided to see if there were an Orval cycling jersey about... no luck. But, check THIS out for beer access: http://www.belgianshop.com/shop/
Posted by EBasil riding a Manitou HT from San Diego on 06/23/04
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There's nothing like Lucifer Belgian Ale.. I will continue to boost the hell out of this beer....It rocks...!!!!!!
Posted by CrzyRidr3 a 32 year old riding a SantaBansheeCruzScreamBlurr on 06/23/04
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I had some last night... Pretty good stuff!
Posted by Zardoz on 07/15/04
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Last night I had a "Barley Wine Style" ale from Avery Brewing, Boulder, Colorado called Hog Heaven Barley Wine. It comes in at 9.2% ABV. The head was off-white, and very lacy and pronounced for a barley wine. While the label says it has 100+ IBU, it was mostly in the nose and on the front of the sip, with no follow-through or lasting hop impression to balance out the very sweet, malty, somewhat raisin-like taste of the deep amber liquid. The sweetness masked the alcohol taste, and really made this all too drinkable, as I polished off the 22oz bottle in about 10 minutes. I really think they mislabled this beer. It has more character of a rich amber ale with a muthafukka of a punch than a classic barleywine, but I'll give it a big thumbs up for a fun, drinkable brew. I got it at the liquor store in Lake Forest at Lake Forest and Dimension...it's the place that still hase bottles of Vertical Epic chilling in the cooler. :-)
Posted by El Jefe on 06/24/04
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sounds good, but not great.... my beer/wine guy at my LGS (local grocery store) is ordering me a whole case of the Stone Imperial Stout! 12 bottles - ALL FOR MEEEEEEEE! BWAHAHAHAHAHA!
Posted by Macrider a 37 year old Die-hard Enthusiast riding a Turner RFX, XCE & Trek Bruiser 2 from LA on 06/24/04
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Sounds like a trade is in order....oh wait, I can get the Imperial Stout anytime I want from Hollingshead's or from the store right down the street from Inkpad's office. I love Stone Brews....I just really really do. My second beer of the night last night was a Stone Smoked Porter. A very very unique tasting Porter, much lighter tasting than most handcrafted porters, but still with a very nice balanced flavor and just a little bit of that Stone hopped finish. I knew it was my last beer of the night, so I took my time with it. My last few sips were at room temp, and it really brought out the roasted malt taste, and got rid of some of the carbonation, making the brew even smoother going down. Very very nice.
Posted by El Jefe on 06/24/04
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I finally found my Stone Imperial Stout - bought 4 so far (I'm gonna get a case - you get a discount by the case!) - I think it's my favorite Stone brew (competing with Double Bastard & the Barley Wine) damn Stone RULES!
Posted by Macrider a 37 year old Die-hard Enthusiast riding a Turner RFX, XCE & Trek Bruiser 2 from LA on 07/02/04
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I have to admit, I really like their lemon wheat beer, though.
Posted by EBasil riding a Manitou HT with Acera rims from San Diego on 07/02/04
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Glad to hear. It's the 22 oz early summer 04 release, right? 10.8% or thereabouts. NOW you can have a good 4th!
Posted by EzyRider2 riding a spot from da beach on 07/02/04
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yes, that is the one....so tasty! sooooo swerve inducing! this weekend was ALL about mojitos - gotta love cachacca (sp?)
Posted by Macrider a 37 year old Die-hard Enthusiast riding a Turner RFX, XCE & Trek Bruiser 2 from LA on 07/06/04
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I didn't drink at all this past weekend.
Also, I haven't crashed in 6 months.
:-D
Posted by El Jefe a 35 year old riding a Santa Cruz V10 and Blur, Kona Stinky, and a SS Kona Cowan from Trabuco Canyon on 07/07/04
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I picked up a whole case of Imperial Stout, and I'm happy to trade some Vertical Epic, or some Old Guardian for a couple bottles of it. Not that it isn't a good solid brew, but I honestly wasn't blown away like I thought I'd be. A deep rich color, and deep brown head, but the head was a bit shorter lived than I'd like, and the brew seemed a bit flat as served at 55(ish) degrees, instead of rich and creamy in its carbonation. The nose was perfect... bitter chocolate, ripe berries, a touch of coffe/roasted malt, anise, and hops. Smooth mouth feel, but not as heavy and thick as d expected, but still very very nice. In tasting the brew, I was disappointed that the subtle anise, berry and alcohol tones were eclipsed by the hop taste, that, while not unpleasant, masked some of the real genius behind this brew. I think letting this one lay down for a year or so could do it some good.
Posted by El Jefe on 07/08/04
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ditto on the lay down, but mine can't be for that long. No brew shall be consumed before its time, or when we need more space for meat. Whichever comes first.
Posted by EBasil riding a Manitou HT from San Diego on 07/08/04
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So far I've liked most brews from Avery. I drink nothing but Reverends now. (10%: yeoow!). Post #235
Posted by Endo Verendo riding a Pushed 4-Spot from The Valley on 07/09/04
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Just stopped by the Mattern Deli in Orange.  A little 'Choucroute Garni' is in order.
Posted by Schecky on 06/25/04
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Spaten OPTINATOR. The name says it all.
Posted by Softy on 06/26/04
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It starts to look appetizing, but all the lint just wrecks the mood.Let me know when you find some Paulaner Maibock in the bottle...
Posted by EBasil riding a Manitou HT made from Spaten cans from San Diego on 06/28/04
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My guess: Big brewery piss purchased at a low rate and labeled for suckers who don't know beer but want to buy it to be cool. Don't waste your taste buds and instead donate directly to the cause, skipping the beer completely. Back to your regularly scheduled beer. I think I'll go purchase some Stella to accompany dinner...
Posted by GC on 06/29/04
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So... how many more posts till 300?
Posted by El Jefe on 07/09/04
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hit FO last night for Jaba's b-day - GOD THOSE BURGERS (and sweet-potato fries) RULE! - Horny Devil started things off & Great White kept the party rolling......
Posted by Macrider a 37 year old Die-hard Enthusiast riding a Turner RFX, XCE & Trek Bruiser 2 from LA on 07/09/04
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I was a bit buzzed...off of 4 beers last night and I can't understand why....I polished off 2 Stone Imperial Stouts, and 2 Guinness. Hmmmmm. :-D
Posted by El Jefe on 07/09/04
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#230 I'm havin' two shots of Corazon Anejo, and a pint of Lucifer...in exactly 2 hours...
Posted by CrzyRidr3 a 32 year old riding a SantaBansheeCruzScreamBlurr on 07/09/04
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I love Corazon. Very clean. BTW-I'm headed to the river this weekend. Copius amounts of Jagermeister shall be consumed, as well as a couple dozen beers per day. Cheers!
Posted by El Jefe on 07/09/04
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Kern? Have fun, either way...
Drink a shot of Jager for me...
Posted by CrzyRidr3 a 32 year old riding a SantaBansheeCruzScreamBlurr on 07/09/04
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Colorado...Parker, AZ. The Kern is for people who can't handle the big engines, right Mac? ;-)
Posted by El Jefe on 07/09/04
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I'll help move this thing along (#241).I may have to change my handle to BevMoHo at this point. Dropped by the holy shrine (Beverages and More in Irvine) this evening with EzyRider2, so now I'm prepared for whatever malted mood overcomes me. Current inventory: - Deschutes Black Butte Porter (tonight's first indulgence, mmm...mmm...good)
- Deschutes Obsidian Stout (will sample my 1st one tomorrow)
- Stone Pale Ale (a great everyday brew)
- Stone IPA (for those days I'm feelin' hoppy)
- Celebrator Doppelbock (still the most 'gasmic of the bunch)
- Spaten Optimator (need to compare to Celebrator -- review to come)
- Paulander Salvator Doppelbock (another to compare to the Celebrator)
- Pete's Wicked Ale (not up to the Stone Pale Ale level, but a classic)
- Pete's Strawberry Blond (keeping it around cuz the chicks seem to like it.)
- Redhook ESB (another good one, but overshadowed by other stand-outs)
- Blue Moon Belgian White (just okay, bought it when reminiscing about the old Blue Moon -- pre Coors days)
- Sierra Nevada Pale Ale ($20 bucks/case@Costco! How can ya pass it up???)
- Sierra Nevada Summerfest (Damn good lager; also @Costco for $20/case!)
- Orangboom (tried it, didn't like it; who wants it??)
- Belgian #1 - Piraat (dessert in a glass!)
- Belgian #2 - Bornem Double (need to try it)
- Belgian #3 - Bornem Triple (need to try it)
- Belgian #4 - Bruegel (need to try it)
- Belgian #5 - Gulden Draak (need to try it)
- Belgian #6 - Augustijn Trippel (need to... whoops, it's gone now.... smoooooth!)
- Pacifico (with chips and guacamole on a blazing hot day, okay???!!)
So, now we need 59 more...
Posted by VLander on 07/12/04
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V-Man, that was pretty classic bumping into each other on the German import aisle! Tried both the Moylan's I picked up, highly recommended. The Irish Red was all that (and more) and the Kilt Lifter was perhaps the best beer I have tasted in a long time. Good find along the lines of Stone. thinking of a having a tasting party with the rest of the cache.....you in?
Posted by EzyRider2 riding a full pint glass from arrogant bastard land on 07/12/04
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I'm all over an inventory analysis symposium (i.e. - tasting party). If this week, could it be held at Chez Boba's Liquid Lounge? (i.e. - our pool and spa area). Reason being: I'm watching the kiddos while me SO visits her mom in the hospital. Let me know; I'll try to get Tumbleweed and a few other 949 neighbors to join...
Posted by VLander on 07/13/04
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I'm in for the sampling, and I can bring your Dopple. This weekend, or during the week? I'm thinking a lazy Saturday afternoon sounds good.... :-)
Posted by El Jefe on 07/13/04
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"BevMoHO" LOL! Much better than VLander. So where are we going for the party? Nominations?
Posted by Endo Verendo riding a Pushed 4-Spot from The Valley on 07/13/04
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My vote says it's somewhere in the 949. (#293... 7 to go...)
Posted by VLander on 07/14/04
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VL, very good advancement on your journey. Young one, keep up the study and when you can snatch the pebbles from my hand... GCBY.....I noticed no Mexican crap in that load and a definate up in Belgian beers. Very impressive. Tonight is an Old Speckled Hen clone. New Castle without the dark and with a bit more hop bite. Homebrewed of course. For you beer drinkers, the ride and benefit for Switchback Cyclery (Tim's cancer) and Tani at the Path will be August 8th. I will provide beer for free (donate to the cause or I will have my big dog lick you to death). Got beer? In the words of Jack Black: Next.
Posted by GC riding a A big wheel from Anaslime Hills on 07/13/04
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I think this is, like, uh, like, totally, you know, like so number 228, know what I'm sayin'? I had a Pete's Wicked Ale last night and was reminded what a bummer it has become. Not bad, not stanky, not great. Used to be great back when mah pappy done drank it.
Posted by EBasil riding a Manitou HT from San Diego on 07/09/04
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Reason #245 for some people to just go too far: 
Posted by EBasil riding a Manitou HT from San Diego on 07/13/04
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sorry, 'knew' - vicodin.... ‡}
Posted by Schecky on 07/13/04
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Okay, I think you need to join our new advocacy club. It's name is Gravity Sucks. Sorry to hear, bro. Vitamin V, vitamin T and a lime will make it all better. Once you start to crap soft, ease up on the beer and pop more Vicoden. You'll be so stoned off of the V that you won't know taste anyhow. Go cheap my man. A V and 3 beers is equal to a solid night at the Kitchen Club with after hours drinks.
Posted by GC on 07/13/04
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BTW, #262.
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I've got a few of those.....game? Not to mention about 40 gals of homebrew.
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Sounds like I need to head to his house soon...not now though, a 502 wouldn't be a good idea. Wow, these Imperial Stouts pack a punch. Between 2 of those and 3 Beck's, I'm feeling just fine...
Posted by El Jefe on 07/14/04
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Beck's adhere's to the Rheinheitsgebot, and is a solid German Lager. I stand by my Beck's decision. Sure, I'd rather have a Stone, but if I'm drinking all night, it's a much better option than a Coor's Light, Bud whatever, or Miller Genuine Lite....
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Don't backtrack, Jiffy. Piss is piss. What about Stella or Urquell? Becks? Are you sure you weren't down to your last $5.00? I had their Oktoberfest and it took over two years for it to be drinkable and I only had a sixer. Nasty.
Posted by GC on 07/14/04
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OK, let's not factor in the Oktoberfest shiite... Pilsner Urquell would have been nice, but GRide was kind enough to bring a sixer of Beck's over to my place as we kicked back and played some guitar. I do enjoy the Pilsner Urquell and Stella Artois more than Beck's, but it's far from pisswater....ok, not THAT far, but it ain't bad in a pinch.
Posted by El Jefe on 07/14/04
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Alright, you didn't mention pinches. You are forgiven. ;) BTW, Sharen Stone still has it and then some......the Tonight Show.
Posted by GC on 07/14/04
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For a lager, I'd vote for a NZ Steinlager over a Beck's.
But, since it was brought over, you can't let it go to waste, and you have to make room for other beer..
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Thank you for understanding. I'm not a huge fan of Steinlager, or really any of the brews from down under. I'd say of the lighter brews, I'd say Pilsner Urquell is tops. I could drink it for days....oh wait, I have...... anyway, we're getting close to 300. Your turn.
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291 Becks makes or made an Oktoberfest bier?
Posted by EBasil riding a Manitou HT from San Diego on 07/14/04
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You get immobilized in bed for a couple of days and the fridge priorities get all out of whack.
Rest assured, it is now going to a good home.
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Yeah, I know. It took me months to find the great beer through the Vicoden haze.
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I'm in for the club, but which one of you two will be the President?
Posted by Schecky on 07/13/04
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Jiffy has me beat by far. He may be short but that bastard busts up like a Ken doll with a pocket full of fire crackers. I defer.
Posted by GC on 07/13/04
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Hey! I resemble that remark.
Posted by El Jefe on 07/14/04
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OK, that reply thread was getting a bit too slim. I missed Sharon, but Conan's monologue is pretty funny...of course, the sprinklers coming on right now is pretty funny.....AHHHHH Stone Imperial Stout....
Posted by El Jefe on 07/14/04
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Thank you....THANK YOU!!!
Posted by El Jefe on 07/14/04
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My favorite 5 questions was with Kathy Ireland. Kilborn - "What are 5 dumb things that models say?" Ireland - "Oh! Um, Ah, Um. Oh!" Kilborn - "OK, we'll take that!"
Posted by Schecky on 07/14/04
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OK, I guess we'll hit 300 tomorrow....bed time. 1:16am and I have to drop off the kid to summer camp at 7:30, and be in meetings by 8am.
Posted by El Jefe on 07/14/04
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Just correcting the title. :-) FO...hmmmm haven't been there in a while, but I don't see myself getting up to the 310 in the next couple weeks...maybe beer tasting at someone's residence? Bring your favorite bottle or two? My place would be fine...of course V-Lander's would be better.... :-)
Posted by El Jefe on 07/15/04
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Plan it....and they will come.....
Urban first..?!?!?!
Posted by CrzyRidr3 a 32 year old riding a SantaBansheeCruzScreamBlurr on 07/15/04
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Sure.
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Hmmmmm. Next Thursday, say around 6:30pm at Oaks, then beer tasting at GC's house, say, 8:30? We can all get T-shirts for the event. Basically, your Best Beer V T-shirt will be this: Take a regular white t-shirt, then spill a bit of your favorite brew right in the middle. ta-dah! Yes, I know wasting beer is bad, but this is art...and you can always lick your shirt afterward.
Posted by El Jefe on 07/15/04
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I prefer the twist and suck method......... .......wait.....forget I said anything......
Posted by CrzyRidr3 a 32 year old riding a SantaBansheeCruzScreamBlurr on 07/15/04
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Check out this guy's beer reviews. Quite entertaining, but warning....F bombs abound as does every other cuss-word in the english language. Make sure to click on the other beer review links he has as well. They're great!
Posted by El Jefe on 07/15/04
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Oh wait, I forgot the link....damn, I need a beer.Beer reviews
Posted by El Jefe on 07/15/04
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Since a party was my idea and I'm working this Thursday night, I say it's a bad idea. :-) Another day maybe?
Posted by Endo Verendo riding a Pushed 4-Spot from The Valley on 07/17/04
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We're having a beer tasting at VLander's house, Monday evening. Email me for info.
Posted by El Jefe on 07/17/04
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That's just great, dammit!. I've been looking for work all summer and finally I get two days of work next week- Monday and Thursday. I'll just sit here and whine with my wine.
Posted by Endo Verendo riding a Pushed 4-Spot from The Valley on 07/17/04
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It was a tatey evening. Sorry you missed it... Stone Imperial Stout, Paulaner Oktoberfest, couple other Germans (a Marzen and a Bock, I believe), Fat Weasel Ale, Pyramid Hefeweizen, a jug o' Mississippi Mud, Deschutes Obsidian Stout, Celebrator Doppelbock, Stone Vert Epic, Maredsous Dobbel Belgian Ale, Duvel Belgian Ale... Next month, EzyRider2 is hosting. Apply for your 949 pass now!
Posted by VLander on 07/20/04
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You party like a pro-baller ! NBA players like to get tatey.
Posted by Lamar Odom on 07/20/04
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How did this thread get knocked down to 5th in line? That was great fun; great beer (well, the Missi Mud sucked), great snacks, and great company. I can't wait for next month! Oh yeah, I'm hosting September, so start your training now. :-)
Posted by El Jefe on 07/22/04
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Mississippi Mud did have a very nasty off flavor to it, kinda like Shaq's ass sweat, not that I would know, just speculation. Everything else was pretty darn 'tatey', with the Vert Epic perhaps being a bit overpowering, i.e. needs to chill for a w h i l e. What would have the vintage MGD in a plastic wide mouth bottle tasted like? Perhaps some things are better left unopened. Next month will be a blind taste test with three catogories, so gentleman, start your taste buds!
Posted by EzyRider2 riding a spot from da beach on 07/22/04
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I'll bring the MGD to the next one. It's in "laydown" mode, so should have time to ripen by then. 8~)
Posted by VLander on 07/22/04
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Wait till you see what I have planned for September...let's just say my "pizza delivery girls" will be involved. Oh... hell yeah...:-)
Posted by El Jefe on 07/23/04
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Uuuh, yes, I'd like a mushroom, pepper and shaved clam pizza, please.
Posted by EzyRider2 riding a spot from da beach on 07/23/04
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Sorry dude, just got back in town and caught up on the beer thread. Thursday this week is no bueno. Next week might be better.
Posted by GC on 07/17/04
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no but las tunas in the gabriel valley has a little spot, stuft sandwich. sam has the ulitimate set. vintage everything you want if he likes you. burp, cheers
Posted by Limpy on 08/06/04
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What glass do I use when drinking Stone Russian Imperial Stout ?
Posted by Lamar Odom on 07/20/04
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Posted by EzyRider2 riding a spot from da beach on 07/20/04
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I'm sipping a Shiner Bock right now. Why? Is it because it's a great brew? hell no, it's not so great....it's because it's Lance A's favorite.... in honor of his TdF win, I'm sipping a Shiner....Man, I gotta finish this quick and then get Lance hooked on Jager and Stone Brews....
Posted by El Jefe on 07/26/04
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I'm drinking Peet's Coffee right now. Why? Is it because it's a great brew? Hells yeah......and it's Lance's favorite. In honor of his TdF win, which was fueled in part by Major Dickasons Blend, I'm sipping some Peet's.
Posted by Endo Verendo riding a Pushed 4-Spot from The Valley on 07/26/04
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The thing was, those guys had PBR cans on the table, and a CASE of Stone just sitting there. Clearly, it wasn't theirs, so the fellas were just trying to rectify the situatioin. They explained to the guys that it wasn't anything personal, but that they Weren't Worthy. Unfortunately, the PBR guys only speak Farsi or arabic, and didn't realize how much they deserved a quick whack in the head with a beer bottle.
Posted by EBasil riding a Manitou HT actually made from PBR cans from San Diego on 07/27/04
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Nah, that'd never be me on either side of that confrontation for a number of reasons. First, if someone was in need of beer and I had beer, I would give it to them freely...no problem. Next, If I were in dire need of beer, I would not be stealing a case... Since a "case of beer" is typically in reference to a pack of 24, no beer I drink comes as a "case" per se...though I do buy Stone 22oz in a 12 beers per box, which I have referenced as a case..... Anyway, I'd never hit someone over the head with a bottle in a fight....if full, that's a waste of good beer. If empty, you can give them to homeless guys so that they can turn them in for recycling and get money to buy beer.
Posted by El Jefe on 07/27/04
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Just sat in a cool little hideaway bar in S'Pore with a find selection of Belgians: started w/ the Chimay Bleu from a bottle -- artfully poured to a bulb glass with 1" of perfect tan foam. Then dined on some Garlic Mussels, accompanied by a Stella Artois from the tap. A tasty fish and chips and seafood croquettes to follow. Finished with the vintage Bordeaux of beers, a Trappistes Rochefort 10, pure fermented heaven. Best part of all: fully expense-accounted pleasure, courtesy of "The Company." Not a bad diversion when you've gotta go 2 weeks without a serious MTB fix... Good beer rocks. Good FREE beer is even better!
Posted by VLander riding a pleasant Belgian Buzz from S'Pore on 08/02/04
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I had a Rochefort 10 a few months ago when I was in Oakland on business. Amazing. Perhaps one of the best beers I've ever tasted.
Posted by El Jefe on 08/02/04
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You are an international man of hops, my man. That is HAWT!
Posted by EzyRider2 riding a spot from da beach on 08/02/04
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Wittekerke White Belgian Ale in 12oz cans, that's right, cans for under $6 a 6pack at Trader Joes. Quite refreshing.
Posted by Endo Verendo riding a Pushed 4-Spot from The Valley on 08/02/04
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Thanks for the tip, good beer in a can! I picked up a sixer last week, worked perfect for throwing in a backpack so I was able to enjoy a tasty brew while watching Blackalicious play the SM pier! BTW, tonight is Clarence Clemons. Last Thurs. night show of the summer.
Posted by Black Bart a 31 year old Die-hard Enthusiast riding a Sugar+ and a Schwinn Cruiser Seven from Santa Monica on 09/02/04
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Cup of urine a day keeps ailments at bay Thu Sep 2,11:11 AM ET
BANGKOK (AFP) - Drinking urine can eliminate sinus trouble, turn grey hair black and even cure cancer, a Thai academic said, citing a study of local Buddhists who engage in the unorthodox practice.
Ratree Cheepudomwit, of the Thai Traditional and Alternative Medicine Development Department, said hundreds of urine drinkers attested that consuming a daily cup worked wonders for their overall health and helped slow the ageing process.
She said that in June she queried 250 members of Santi Asoke, a strict indigenous Buddhist movement believed to have thousands of followers, and 204 respondents said they had learned from ancient Buddhist manucripts that drinking one's urine improved health.
"Of the respondents, 87 percent confirmed that it had head-to-toe benefits for them, including for example reduction of dandruff, grey hair, sinus problems and cancer," Ratree told AFP.
The medical elixir was not easy on everyone's system, as about one in 10 urine drinkers suffered diarrhea afterwards, but the practice should not be viewed with disgust, she said.
Posted by FullSizeBrah a Die-hard Enthusiast riding a Big Bike on 09/02/04
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Wow, this one dropped out of the top 5 for a day. I've been drinking Kona Fire Rock Pale Ale lately on tap at my bar. Pretty refreshing.
Posted by El Jefe on 08/11/04
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Kona's Longboard Lager is also an excellent beverage.
Posted by Surly a 28 year old Die-hard Enthusiast riding a '02 Giant AC from Pasadena on 08/11/04
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More info on the Kona beer lineup, where it is made, and where to get it. :) Your slackin. I am hungover from a 3:00 happy hour yesterday. There is this sandwich shop that has really good subs that you create. They have a great happy hour with a large patio in the sun. Then, walked over to my favorite bar of all time, Spikes Place for Taco Tuesdays. 2 Tacos for 2 bucks. Threw a couple Blue Moons back, after that I dont remember. I had more to drink too. I dont remember paying. There has been so many times that I have not remembered paying in that bar, it is sick. My point: Beer is good.
Posted by Lagwagon on 08/11/04
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so you are pretty much just sitting around drinking and eating and getting fat(er)? THAT'S why you are blowing off gnarly freeriding with super-duper gnarly guys? GCBY!
Posted by Macrider a 37 year old Die-hard Enthusiast riding a Turner RFX, XCE & Trek Bruiser 2 from LA on 08/11/04
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I have been sitting around and drinking and eating a lot. I just got out of the shower and ready for the day and it is almost 1 oclock! Loser. I am starting my new job that weekend you super-duper gnarly freeride punks are making your trip. Keep me in mind for your next SB trip, I could meet you there. Back to beer. There is nothing like a fresh beer on tap. I had this beer that was made locally, it was a IPA and super hoppy, and fresh. So good when you get a chance to have that.
Posted by Lagwagon on 08/11/04
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Umm...start here. Kona's Lineup
Posted by Surly a 28 year old Die-hard Enthusiast riding a '02 Giant AC from Pasadena on 08/11/04
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Is there still a brewpub in Mammoth Lakes? Wasn't it called Whiskey Creek or something? Any good, lately?
Posted by EBasil riding a Manitou HT and leaky Fisher Cake from the almost road to Mammoth on 08/11/04
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Mammoth Brewing I think?
Posted by Macrider a 37 year old Die-hard Enthusiast riding a Turner RFX, XCE & Trek Bruiser 2 from LA on 08/11/04
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Yeah--Mammoth Brewing, upstairs in the same building as Whiskey Creek. Supposedly Whiskey Creek is for sale--if you've got a cool million lying around.
Posted by Surly a 28 year old Die-hard Enthusiast riding a '02 Giant AC from Pasadena on 08/11/04
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Well, Mammoth Brewing's beers are pretty good, but not great. The IPA was fragrant but lacked the zing of a proper IPA. The Amber was beautifully deep amber (one called it "dark" at our table) and well hopped, but with just a touch too much sweet maltiness...they should call it an Alt and be done. The Nut Brown was pretty good. That's all I could try, being otherwise dehydrated and altitude-nuked. Along with those 3, I have 5 pints of water (total 8 pints consumed) and still didn't pee for 3 more hours.
Posted by EBasil riding a Manitou HT from San Diego on 08/17/04
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I had a couple Boddington's last night. It wasn't my first choice, or even second or third, but the roomie bought it for me, so I drank it. Great mouth feel and a real smooth brew, just not a lot of umph in the flavor department.
Posted by El Jefe on 08/13/04
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Now as a darkside rider ,a friend described my downward spriral as obsessive. The old handle wasn't right was it? Never felt like it described me to well. Like HLD is not right. Those talking crap can't even attempt half the stuff you stack on. Now El Jefe is you off the bike too. Thats a good one. Oh yeah I'm drinking Stone pale ale 5.4%. Very tatey with chocolate chip cookies.
Posted by OCD on 08/14/04
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Like I would ever grind my muddy boots all over someones couch just to do it.
Posted by OCD on 08/14/04
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Oh yeah, I did mess up the man's couch, I remember that... ha ha ha ha! Cocaine is a HELL-OF-A drug....
Posted by Macrider a 37 year old Die-hard Enthusiast riding a Turner RFX, XCE & Trek Bruiser 2 from LA on 08/17/04
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Nocal version: "Cocaine's a hella drug".
Posted by Lagwagon on 08/17/04
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Speaking of beer, my house for the benefit ride, biatches. Free beer on the house and a good selection right now. All I ask is that you bring a potluck item and some cash to donate to our friends. Chocolate stout, dry stout, rye IPA, IPA, Old Speckled Hen clone, cream ale...I think there are 70 gals on tap for the event... Party on, Wayne. Boddington's: Smooth as water and the same taste. Great stuff for Irish Car Bombs.
Posted by GC on 08/13/04
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 Got mine. Smooth and mild. Frankly, this is probably the most accessible of all Stones, for the UnWorthy.
Posted by EBasil riding a Manitou HT from San Diego on 08/19/04
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Cracked a few more, and one of the Generally Worthy finds this one to be "strong and heavy"... and more extreme than the standard Pale. She has a point: it's very malty and fairly high octane. So, it's the least hoppy. Let's call it that. Oh, and push this back up top.
Posted by EBasil on 08/30/04
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Cruising the net for underage girls now? You get classier all the time.
Posted by Black Bart a 31 year old Die-hard Enthusiast riding a Sugar+ and a Schwinn Cruiser Seven from Santa Monica on 08/19/04
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I'm sure your silly post will bury a 350+ strong thread. GCBY
Posted by Endo Verendo riding a Pushed 4-Spot from The Valley on 08/19/04
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My neighbor juyst arrived back from a week in New York City (land of good salsa) and brought me a sixer of DG Yuengling & Son's Premium Ale. I haven't seen a Yeungling in Calif in quite a while (who knows, it may be at TJ's), so it was pretty cool. http://www.yuengling.com/beers.htm It's cross-continental pollination.
Posted by EBasil riding a Manitou HT from the thread that doesn't die from soup on 08/20/04
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Do you have Philly's Best in your area? It's a cheesesteak shop where all ingredients are flown in from Philly. The only place that makes an authentic cheesesteak like the ones I used to get when I lived in Philadelphia. Anyway, Philly's Best serves Yuengling beers.
Posted by El Jefe a 35 year old riding a Santa Cruz V10 and a Blur from Trabuco Canyon on 08/20/04
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Just getting this thread back to insanity
Posted by CrzyRidr3 a 33 year old riding a SantaBansheeCruzScreamBlurr on 08/20/04
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Yes sir.
Posted by CrzyRidr3 a 33 year old riding a SantaBansheeCruzScreamBlurr on 08/20/04
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THAT IS SO HOT GUS!!! I don't need...to sell my soul....he's already in me....
Posted by Macrider on 08/20/04
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Good image. Not Lucifer ale from Belgium, though? Looks like it'd make an even better jersey than Stone...
Posted by EBasil riding a Manitou HT from San Diego on 08/20/04
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I think it's just beer art. I took a quick spin around the 'net after seeing it last week and can't find any evidence of the lager product shown. I guess the poster would be good, itself.
Posted by EBasil riding a Manitou HT from San Diego on 08/23/04
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Yeah, the Ale is pretty easily acquired, and good. It's not the product in the art/poster above, though.
Posted by EBasil riding a Manitou HT from San Diego on 08/23/04
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Yup, never seen a 666 bottle before....Although I'd try it...for sure!!!
Posted by CrzyRidr3 a 33 year old riding a SantaBansheeCruzScreamBlurr on 08/23/04
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Results of last week's blind beer tasting are in; our esteemed panel has concluded that Unibroue's 'Maudite' should receive the gold, with silver going to Rouge's Dead Guy Ale, and a Bronze to Kona's Fire Rock Pale Ale. That was one fun night!!All Hail the Maudite ^m^
Posted by EzyRider2 riding a cold one from somewhere warm on 08/24/04
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what were all the beers you were tasting? I do like that Maudite... does anybody know if Craftsman White Sage is available in bottles anywhere? I LOVE that beer & the only place I know they have it is Father's Office (not that that is TOO much of a bad thing....)
Posted by Macrider on 08/24/04
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Here is the line up(in order of apperance): Bud Light (Yes, bud light!)
Samual Adams Light
RedHook ESB
Kona Fire Rock PA
Deschutes Quail Springs PA
Stone PA
Rouge Dead Guy
Moylan's Kilt Lifter
Unibroue Maudite
Stone Imperial Stout
North Coast Old Rasputin Stout
Spaten Optimator Interestingly, everyone noticed a metallic aftertaste in the Stone Pale Ale. Not interestingly, Bud Light was voted as 'tasteless' and 'weak'. I really have to check out that 'Father's Office' place, sounds like the serious hop juice is served there.
Posted by EzyRider2 riding a cold one from a warm place on 08/26/04
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Mmmmm.... cheez whiz on beef!
Posted by ZG a 34 year old Weekend Warrior riding a XRCFEX, Etc. from Studio City on 08/24/04
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Have I just been to distracted by the contents of the bottle? Or is this little silk screen on the bottle new? 
Posted by Black Bart a 31 year old Die-hard Enthusiast riding a Sugar+ and a Schwinn Cruiser Seven from Santa Monica on 08/23/04
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*too
Posted by Black Bart a 31 year old Die-hard Enthusiast riding a Sugar+ and a Schwinn Cruiser Seven from Santa Monica on 08/23/04
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Not good to have this thread drop out of the top 5. Let's see, what did I have in SLO? Lag, please report back on all the delicious libations we consumed in SLO (at least try to remember...I know it gets fuzzy after a while.)
Posted by El Jefe on 08/30/04
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Stone Levitation was on my list this weekend... Also had a couple shots of 1921 anejo tequila. That's some good shiaat...
Posted by CrzyRidr3 a 33 year old riding a SantaBansheeCruzScreamBlurr on 08/30/04
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No way mang... One or two shots of that stuff is pretty mellow... Add a couple more........then we got issues.. ; )
Posted by CrzyRidr3 a 33 year old riding a SantaBansheeCruzScreamBlurr on 08/30/04
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2 shots of Patron and 4 beers= dark periods in life..... thank god for menudo.
Paz Afuera
Posted by Papisimo on 08/30/04
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HA! LOL!! I've had some bad experiences with menudo after a long night of drinking... ; )
Posted by CrzyRidr3 a 33 year old riding a SantaBansheeCruzScreamBlurr on 08/30/04
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We had that killer local IPA sold exclusively at Spikes. It was good n' hoppy, and the bartender referred to it as 'da kine'. You were not a huge fan of it. It was full of hops, almost like Mary-J in liquid form. :) I have had every time I go there, or when they have it. Fat Wiesel Ale (local), Carmel Wheat (Monterrey Bay), Boonville IPA (Oregon), Black Hart Irish Style Dry Stout (Fort Bragg, North Coast Brewing Co), Eye of the Hawk Reserve (Mendocino Brewing Co, Specail Edition), a few beers from Paso Robles, and some more locally brewed. Although we didnt have it, but we came close to buying that 80 dollar bottle of Stone Brew. How many liters was it and what kind? You left behind two pairs of shoes btw. Riding shoes and black shoes. Dude, they are stinkin' up my barn!
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Brah, I was wondering what happened to my Circa shoes. I thought we were going to buy the big bottle of Chimay... I think we may have to take that one down in October. Oh...hell yeah.
Posted by El Jefe on 09/07/04
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I joined the NorCal invasion and headed up to Monterey this weekend with la Familia and the bike.
Made it in to Pacific Grove - 55° and misty - Sweet!
We got in to town late, so I went to grab a pizza.
On the way back I hit a liquor store for some soda and decided to peruse the beer selection.
A decent collection was laid out in the case.
I scanned to see what was available: Newcastle, Sierra Nevada, some German brews, etc.
Stone...Stone?, Hey!
Imperial Stout, Smoked Porter, Ruination IPA, AB ale. Hella cool!
I like this store! The drive back was a little happier.
The next day, we were leaving the Aquarium and I stopped in the Monterey bike store for some advice on local trails.
I finally left, walked down the stairs and joined the family on the street.
My daughter said: 'What took you so long?'
My son's response: 'All Daddy cares about is bicycles and beer!'
Gotta train 'em young!
Posted by Schecky on 09/03/04
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Fellow 949 BevMoHo's - New store in Laguna Niguel is offering $10 off coupons in the LA Times (OC Edition) on purchases of $30 or more THIS WEEKEND ONLY!!! Unfortunately, by the time any of you see this, I will have already cleaned out the house supply of Belgians, Celebrator Doppelbock, various pale ales, and all forms of Deschutes and Unibroue with my 2,422 coupons clipped from all the papers I could buy at every newsstand in South OC...
Posted by VLander a 45 year old riding a fridge full o' suds from Viejoland on 09/03/04
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Very Nice, Very Nice.
paz Afuera
Posted by Papisimo riding a bike on 09/06/04
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What the hell is going on around here? This thread slowing down.
Due to the excessive heat, I am gonna crack open some of the New Belgian's finest I had stashed away.
Paz Afuera
Posted by Papisimo on 09/11/04
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Any body who posts on a w/e needs to desparatly to GAL!!! Im on the duty gourding Amerika protecting you from terrorists and Democrats, what's excuse is yours?
Posted by Mtnbkbug on 09/11/04
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I bought a sixer of Fat Tire this weekend in Tahoe. I got through 2 of them all weekend... I've lost my taste for the pseudo-hopped Fat Tire. It just seemed weak compared to a Stone, or even other solid pale ales. Just my 2 cents.
Posted by El Jefe a 35 year old riding a V10 and a Blur from Trabuco Canyon on 09/13/04
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I hear what ya saying Jefe. I must admit, since New Belgian started distributing their beers outside CO, I have noticed they don't taste nearly as good as when I was going to school in Ft. Collins. I don't know if it's just the freshness that made it taste so damn good. They have changed the bottles from the traditional bomber to what we see today. I don't know if they have the same brewery. When I was there they had just moved from a really small building to a brand new warehouse. Now... I don't know.
But cracking a Fat Tire or any New Belgian is a good thing. It does bring back a lot of good memories from ColoColo, like how I gained 25lbs drinking that stuff night and day. Lots and lots of "Smart Kegs" and ...... the ol' Kegorator.
*sigh*
Paz Afuera
Posted by Papisimo on 09/13/04
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It's beer tasting time again. It's my turn to host, and unless major objections are raised, I'm looking at Tuesday the 21st, or Tuesday the 28th as our tasting date. Those interested, Email your preference on the date. This month, I'll ask everyone to bring 2 or 3 selections of your fave brews. One (or two) from America, and one (or two) from somewhere other than the US. Besides rating the beer on taste, head, mouth feel etc... you'll also be asked to try to blindly identify your own selections.
Posted by El Jefe on 09/14/04
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The 28th it is. 7pm-9?10?11?pm. If you haven't been to one of our little beer tasting gatherings, feel free to invite yourself. It's not a large group, nor a big party, but it is a lot of fun.
Posted by El Jefe riding a beer glass from Trabuco Canyon, Orange County on 09/18/04
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Anybody who responds to themselves, asks themsleves questions to which they do or do not already know the answer, AND posts this all on a w/e needs to seriously GAL! Using the patented "I have my daughter for the w/e" defense is no longer valid, unless you're the HLD.
Posted by Mtnbkbug on 09/18/04
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I am the HLD. I do what I want, when I want.
Posted by El Jefe a 35 year old riding a V10 and a Blur from Trabuco Canyon on 09/20/04
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http://www.latimes.com/travel/la-tr-belgium19sep19.story
DESTINATION: BELGIUM
Happy hours in Brussels
The first half-century of one visitor's life is celebrated with samples of 50 beers -- paced out over a week, mind you.
By Tomm Carroll
Special to The TimesSeptember 19, 2004 "The things we do with beer, eh?" the waiter said as surprise registered on our faces. We had just tasted a delectable dessert: a sorbet made with three hop-brewed beverages — a wit (white) beer, a kriek (cherry) lambic and an abbey-style ale. We were winding up dinner at In 't Spinnekopke (In the Spiderweb) in Brussels, a traditional Belgian restaurant-tavern housed in an 18th century stagecoach inn. Within its rustic confines, chef Jean Rodriguez specializes in regional Flemish dishes and cuisine à la bière. The dessert followed equally impressive main courses: salmon poached in a wheat ale with essences of orange peel and coriander and baked chicken in a mushroom sauce made with a sweet cherry lambic. We also ordered two of the beers van 't vat (on tap): Blanche de Steendonck, the wit in the salmon, and Maredsous 6, an amber-colored abbey ale with a fruity tang. Thus I added two more to the list of mostly amazing beers I sampled this spring during a week in Belgium. As an aficionado of Belgian ales, I decided to celebrate my 50th birthday here with my sweetheart, Danise. "Fifty beers for 50 years" was my motto, and I paced the trip to hoist the 50th on the hour of my birth, after a self-guided tour of Brussels' beer bars. The restaurant was a block and a half from our hotel, the George V, near the Fish Market district. This unassuming 1859 townhouse has reasonably priced rooms, small and plain but with modern furnishings. Despite the backstreet location, it's only a 15-minute walk to the historic Grand-Place, the oversized town square that is the centerpiece of the city. On the way to Grand-Place the next morning, we came upon Le Falstaff, a 100-year-old tavern across the street from Bourse, the ornate 1873 stock exchange building. The best brews on the fairly expansive beer list were bottled, as are most Belgian beers. (They undergo a secondary fermentation in the bottle and hence improve with age, not unlike wine.) I chose the extra-strong (11% alcohol) Kasteelbier, well-aged and wonderfully bitter with a dash of Curaçao, while Danise grabbed a Grimbergen Tripel (no slouch itself at 9%), a hoppy yet pleasantly sweet abbey beer brewed from an 1128 recipe and traditionally served by the good monks to thirsty pilgrims and travelers. Soon we arrived at Grand-Place. Huge buildings with ornamental statues, elaborate gables and gilded facades surround the marketplace, as they have since 1700. Standing as a proud testament to how deeply rooted beer is in the tradition of this country is the Maison des Brasseurs, one of the remaining guild houses in the square. Behind its decorative edifice is the headquarters for the Belgian Brewers Union, direct descendant of the Brewers Guild, founded in the 14th century. More important to beer fans of today, however, is the Belgian Brewers Museum in the basement. We passed the statue of St. Arnoldus, the patron saint of brewers, at the entrance and descended into the "brewseum." The permanent exhibition explains modern brewing methods using inventive video displays, like one in the "porthole" of a huge copper boiling kettle. All around are old tankards and 18th century porcelain beer pumps. The self-guided tour concludes with a visit to the museum's dark but cozy cafe for a glass of a draft Pilsener. The barman declined to identify the maker of the beer, saying that various Belgian breweries take turns supplying kegs to the museum and they remain anonymous. Too bad; although not the most exciting style of beer in Belgium (in fact, Pilsener isn't even a Belgian style, but a Czech one), this light lager was dry with a crisp, clean taste and proved the most refreshing Pils I sampled. A two-block walk from the Grand-Place put us at a crowded corner containing perhaps the most famous icon of Brussels, indeed of Belgium itself, the Manneken Pis, a statue and fountain of a perpetually urinating youth, au naturel. It had something of a visceral effect on me (it was all that beer), so off I went to heed nature's call, ducking into the nearby Taverne Manneken Pis, a touristy cafe with replicas of the tinkling tot around the foot of the curved bar. Regional cheese with beer The beer selection was much better across the street at the Poechenellekelder (Punchinello Cellar), which was decorated with marionettes. We sat on the patio and enjoyed the early-afternoon sunshine and Fromage de Chimay, a plate of four regional cheeses. They came from the Chimay monastery, the biggest and best known of the six Trappist breweries in the country, where the justifiably revered, almost wine-like Chimay ales are brewed. Naturally, we paired the cheese with a couple of bottled Chimays — the blue-labeled Grand Réserve, with its ruby hue and port-like character, and the white-labeled Cinq Cents (named for the 500-year-old town of Chimay), a dry, hoppy, rust-colored ale — both served in a traditional glass chalice. Still taken with that mystery Pilsener at the museum, I ordered a draft Jupiler, Belgium's biggest-selling Pils, from the mega-brewery Interbrew, to see how it compared. Although it was not horrible, it was soft and bland, with notes of newly mown hay, definitely not the beer I had earlier. Belgium is known as beer paradise, but Jupiler — even van 't vat — more represents beer purgatory. Less than two blocks away, we decended into a virtual replica of Hades. It was the marvelously macabre Halloween, a dark, dungeon-like bar decorated with eerily illuminated ghouls and gargoyles. As we approached, the owner — a lupine graybeard named Skipper — beckoned us to cross his threshold. Each table was named for a horror movie character, so seated at Fu Manchu, we were attended to by a surly young waiter in a hooded monk's robe. Many of the Gothic paintings on the wall featured the Skipper. But my favorite touch was the recorded music piped through the house: ABBA hits done as Gregorian chants. We chose our poisons accordingly; I fell prey to a large goblet of the libation Lucifer, a strong Belgian pale ale, big-headed and sharp-tasting with a sour finish, and Danise was tempted by a Duvel (Devil), with its magnificent, meringue-like head, glimmering gold body and seductive fruitiness. Both were rated about 8% in strength and kept us giddy enough to forgive the mad monk's attitude and poke around this funhouse full of grotesqueries to the choral chants of "Wah … Ter … Loooo…. " After that experience, it seemed our next stop should be De Ultieme Hallucinatie (the Ultimate, or Last, Hallucination), an acclaimed eat-and-drinkery across town, as noted for its finely appointed décor as it is for its extensive beer list. Taking advantage of Brussels' exceptional public transportation system — a big plus when you're barhopping — we grabbed an underground tram to the Rogier stop (near another of our favorite hotels, the neon-bedecked Art Hotel Siru) and transferred to the Métro, taking it to the Botanique station. We strolled through the maze-like botanical garden with its massive greenhouse dome and ornate statues — a visually suitable prelude to our hallucinogenic destination several minutes away. Originally a family mansion dating to the mid-19th century and renovated in an Art Noveau style in 1904 by noted architect Paul Hamesse, De Ultieme Hallucinatie was again remodeled into a restaurant-tavern — with its elegant design restored — and opened in 1981. We dined in the brasserie area that used to be the home's garden; the jagged rock walls remain, and a part of the former greenhouse now shelters the long bar. The booth seats were originally train benches designed for Belgian Railways in 1930. Monastery brews A bit overheated from our journey, we ordered two of the more thirst-quenching brews on the menu: a Stella Artois, Belgium's well-known, reliably refreshing "premium" golden lager, and a Hoegaarden, the almost-as-famous, shimmeringly cloudy wit that has become the standard-bearer of the style. For solid sustenance, we again went with cuisine à la bière. I had the waterzooi, a Flemish stew made with fish and blond beer; Danise dined on a milder tasting fish entrée, sea devil in a kriek lambic sauce. The beer list at De Ultieme Hallucinatie featured bottles from all six Trappist monasteries, so we took that route for the next rounds. We tried an Achel, a nicely hopped Tripel (strong ale) from the youngest of Belgium's monastic breweries, and an even stronger Rochefort 8, a tawny-colored ale, both bitter and spicy with a suggestion of figs, from the least known of the monastery breweries. With the specific hour of my birth approaching, we Métro'd to the Gare Centrale train station and walked a few blocks to perhaps the busiest beer bistro in Brussels, À la Mort Subite (At the Sudden Death). It was a fine old cafe that appeared not to have changed since it began serving in the 1920s, with plain wood tables and high ceilings above mirrored walls on which the beer menu was stenciled. Here, it was all about the beer. The bistro also brews traditional Brussels beers such as lambic, gueze and faro under the Mort Subite moniker. Still entertaining a taste for Trappist ales, at about 9:30 that evening (the exact moment of my birthday, compensating for the time change), I sipped an Orval from its own dedicated glass, a wide-rimmed drinking vessel that accents its strong floral aroma and plentiful head. It was generously hopped, reminiscent of an American-style India Pale Ale in its bitterness. There's a legend that the spring water from which Orval is brewed possesses healing powers, so it seemed the appropriate beer to mark a half a century. Adding to the celebration, Danise persuaded an international group of beer-quaffers at a nearby table to join in with birthday toasts for me, which they did — in Danish, English, Gaelic, Greek and Spanish. The day was fading, and so were we. But what's a birthday without dessert — or a dessert beer? We finished off the night sharing one of Mort Subite's signature brews, a faro — a blend of young lambic (fermented less than six months) and light beer with dark candy sugar added. It was akin to oversweetened iced tea and unlike any beer I had ever tasted, but it grew on me. Danise and I sat back, surveyed the happy crowd and sipped our faro. Woozily, we proposed a toast to the brewers of Belgium: "The things they do with beer!" *
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I have added this trip to my "I wanna do this before I die" list.
Posted by CrzyRidr3 a 33 year old riding a SantaBansheeCruzScreamBlurr on 09/21/04
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If Belgium had freeriding (maybe in the Ardennes forest?), I'd sooooo be there right now! sounds like they have some killer bars over there!
Posted by Macrider a 37 year old Die-hard Enthusiast riding a Turner RFX, XCE & Trek Bruiser 2 from LA on 09/21/04
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What an awesome trip.But, Orval better not taste like an IPA. Maybe the best Abbey ale in the world, but with way lower IBU's than any proper IPA should have. That dude is Not Worthy.
Posted by EBasil riding a Manitou HT from San Diego on 09/21/04
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I had a Russian River Salvation brew on tap for lunch today. Amazing. Simply amazing. Dark brown in color, and a really cool, smooth mouth feel with just enough carbonation to keep it from feeling heavy. The 8.5-9% alcohol was completely hidden. There was a nice prominent fruity banana / clove yeast flavor, but not overpowering or pungent. helping round out the edges was a very thin, yet recognizable malty taste, perhaps crystal or lightly toasted malt. Sweet, but thin enough to make it feel and taste lighter than it was, and allow the very slightly hopped flavor to poke its head out and look around. I was very very impressed by this beer. A barbecue beef sandwich, quacamole chips and a RR Salvation. Perfect lunch. On my way out the door from Hollingshead's, I snagged a Stone Russian Imperial Stout, a Stone 8th anniversary brew, and a Stone Old Guardian Barley Wine (perhaps my favorite beer in the whole wide world.)
Posted by El Jefe on 09/21/04
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I hate him most of the time...so get it line... ;-) but if I had that lunch I'd be: a) asleep for a couple of hours after lunch and b) as fat as he is...
Posted by Macrider a 37 year old Die-hard Enthusiast riding a Turner RFX, XCE & Trek Bruiser 2 from LA on 09/21/04
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totally flogged fireroad on the big bike this morning - not too bad, but certainly not ready for Tunnel or anything like it.. nice to be back on a bike, not so nice to be up at 6am again... I'm drinking a Stone Imperial Stout w/Dinner tonight...
Posted by Macrider a 37 year old Die-hard Enthusiast riding a Turner RFX, XCE & Trek Bruiser 2 from LA on 09/21/04
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I'll be drinking a Hopf Heffe.... MMMMMMMMMM.......beir.....
Posted by CrzyRidr3 a 33 year old riding a SantaBansheeCruzScreamBlurr on 09/21/04
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If you're trying to spell beer the german way, it's spelled b-i-e-r. FYI-The "ie" sound in german is similar to our "ee" sound, and "ei" sounds more like "i." Das ist alles.
Posted by El Jefe on 09/22/04
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It's okay: if the German can't understand English, just talk LOUDER.
"Beer" is a pretty universal word, though.
Posted by EBasil riding a Manitou HT from San Diego on 09/22/04
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Looks better spelled my way... ; )
Posted by CrzyRidr3 a 33 year old riding a SantaBansheeCruzScreamBlurr on 09/22/04
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Nude Beer?Remember the "old" version, with the scratch-off labels? Well, the new version (no relation, I think) uses peeeel off covers and actually won a few awards for the brew inside the bottle. http://www.drinknudebeer.com/home/index.html
Posted by EBasil riding a sticky Manitou HT from San Diego on 09/22/04
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My penis is purple and bruised, and shall not be used for any other purpose than peeing for the next 3 days, I shall spend the evening drinking various Belgian brews.
Posted by El Jefe on 10/01/04
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The purple penis was called to action earlier than expected, but performed as requested. To celebrate, I went to lunch and had a barbecue beef club sandwich and Uni-brau Bock at Hollingshead's deli. Awesome.
Posted by El Jefe on 10/04/04
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I need to go to Fathers Office sometime this week. That is all.
Posted by Endo Verendo riding a burger and a Craftsman brew craving on 10/05/04
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I know I'm just talking to myself here, but the FO fix was taken care of last night. Thanks JimN. BTW, we had the first good pour of Craftsman Triple White Sage in a long time. Tasted like the old TWS I used to love and not the skank beer I got the last two times I ordered it. That is all.
Posted by Endo Verendo riding a Pushed 4-Spot from The Valley on 10/08/04
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I'm headed with part of the 310 Cartel, and another member of the OC Contingent to SLO this weekend. Bring on Spike's!!!
Posted by El Jefe on 10/08/04
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Spike's in SLO rules for off-beat but tasty beer selections. That is all
Posted by El Jefe on 10/11/04
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Let it be known, ZG had crappy beer at his wedding....still, Mazltov!!!!! (or something like that)
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Who needs beer (or rain gear...or ravioli) when the bar staff is pouring pints of champagne!?! *hic* BTW, we were at the Ojai Brewing Co. today....."El Jefe's Hefewizen" was on tap. :-)
Posted by Endo Verendo riding a Pushed 4-Spot from The Valley on 10/17/04
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Rolling Rock sucks. Even worse in the rain. But still...the glow sticks in the middle of dinner were interesting...??! I got home and drank a Dead Guy Ale. That made me happy. At least the ceremony was dry...
Posted by CrzyRidr3 a 33 year old riding a SantaBansheeCruzScreamBlurr on 10/18/04
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Well, well, well... Celebrator Doppelbock on tap, and Rochefort 10 by the bottle -- they got my 2 favorite imports. Sounds like a good place to hang out (except for that "no Singletrack" rule in nearby Marin...)
Posted by VLander on 10/18/04
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Marin is soooo 1975. There's an absurd amount of singletrack south of the city. Some of it is really, really good. too fun to be legal BTB
Posted by El Santo riding a Bullit on 10/18/04
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I rode ECDM OSP about 10 yrs back, and had a blast. Is that Porche still there? (And the trail named after it??) That is good stuff, but you can't ride to there from 547 Haight, whereas you could ride across the GG to the Marin fireroads from 547 Haight... On second thought, you could ride to 547 Haight AFTER the Marin fireroads (prob not a good idea the other direction, post suds!!)
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This thread is now officially ENDANGERED. Oh yeah, and I show up a Leucadia Pizzeria with my clan, order a Stone IPA and the waitress says, " Uh, you haven't been in for a while. We stopped carrying it." She said this right in front of my family, so I had to ask if she was sure this was my fault. She replied,"You're the one that ordered pitchers of it. You and those guys were the ones buying all the IPA!" I have failed ye, brethren.
Posted by EBasil riding a Manitou HT from San Diego on 10/18/04
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OK, to keep this thread alive, I will kow-tow to the almighty Steve and mention something bike related. Last week I got together with Inkpad and Lady Dirt. They had a pale ale of some sort and I had a Guinness. Inkpad talked about how Inkpad rode my V10 and how smooth and fast it is down Rockit. I've cut down my beer consumption considerably in the past couple weeks...ok, past couple days...ok, yesterday I didn't have any beer. But tonight I believe I shall have either a Delirium Tremens, or a Stone Barley Wine. That is all.
Posted by El Jefe on 10/18/04
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MMMMMMMMMMMMMM..... V10 and Delirium....
I still have to try Rockit...
When I do, I will have a Delirium with you after I clean my cuts and ice my bruises. Well, maybe at the same time.. ; )
Posted by CrzyRidr3 a 33 year old riding a SantaBansheeCruzScreamBlurr on 10/18/04
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No go this weekend, but maybe next... Will let you know...
Posted by CrzyRidr3 a 33 year old riding a SantaBansheeCruzScreamBlurr on 10/18/04
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Next (Oct 29-31) is Red Bull Rampage brah. Huck one, huck two!
Posted by El Jefe on 10/18/04
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Dammit!!!
Maybe I'll stow-away in someone's vehicle..
Or maybe I'll drive myself..!!! If not, following weekend...
Posted by CrzyRidr3 a 33 year old riding a SantaBansheeCruzScreamBlurr on 10/18/04
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Big Beer. Big Wood. 
Here it is, men. The very limited, AB-"Oaked" run. The press release, good readin, is here: http://www.arrogantbastard.com/doublebastard/2004/oakedpr.html
Posted by EBasil riding a Manitou HT or a Fisher Cake from San Diego on 10/18/04
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Double Bastard is horrid. I am worthy of AB, but I use this stuff to clean my chain after muddy rides. ;-)
Posted by Endo Verendo riding a Pushed 4-Spot from The Valley on 10/18/04
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Anytime in the next couple of months..... We'll figure it out...
Posted by CrzyRidr3 a 33 year old riding a SantaBansheeCruzScreamBlurr on 10/19/04
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Yeah she wa.....
I mean yeah!! My wife is hot!!!
; )
Posted by CrzyRidr3 a 33 year old riding a SantaBansheeCruzScreamBlurr on 10/19/04
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Well I wasn't going to say anything about your wife out of respect, but since you bring it up; how the hell did you con her into marrying you? ;-)
Posted by El Jefe on 10/19/04
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LOL!!! Actually, it was the other way around....!!! ; )
I did get pretty lucky, eh??!?!
Posted by CrzyRidr3 a 33 year old riding a SantaBansheeCruzScreamBlurr on 10/19/04
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Rolling Rock is an excellent lighter/compromise beer, one for the masses. =)
Posted by ZG a 34 year old Weekend Warrior riding a XRCFEX, Etc. from Studio City on 10/26/04
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Uh, no.
Pilsner Urquel is an excellent lighter/compromise beer. One for the masses.
Rolling Rock sucks a$$.
; )
Posted by CrzyRidr3 a 33 year old riding a SantaBansheeCruzScreamBlurr on 10/26/04
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Good luck getting a keg of that in Camarillo!
Posted by ZG a 34 year old Weekend Warrior riding a XRCFEX, Etc. from Studio City on 10/26/04
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I would have brought it from a place around here and had my best man pick it up.... Or had it delivered....
But, that's me.
; )
Posted by CrzyRidr3 a 33 year old riding a SantaBansheeCruzScreamBlurr on 10/27/04
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Yeah, well... I had a few other things on my mind... and I like rolling rock.:)
Posted by ZG a 34 year old Weekend Warrior riding a XRCFEX, Etc. from Studio City on 10/27/04
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Other things on your mind??!?!? What, getting married?!?!? C'mon Zeeeg....we all know the first priority in planning a wedding is figuring out what beer you're having at the reception. Get with the program..!..oh, wait....don't get with the program...you'd have to get married again to get with the program. ; )
Posted by CrzyRidr3 a 33 year old riding a SantaBansheeCruzScreamBlurr on 10/27/04
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Quite a "compromise"...What's a keg of Urquell go for? 
Posted by EBasil riding a Manitou HT or a Fisher Cake from San Diego on 10/27/04
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Bevmo had em' for 145....
Posted by CrzyRidr3 a 33 year old riding a SantaBansheeCruzScreamBlurr on 10/27/04
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Double Bastard!!! Excellent batch this year, I must say.
Posted by El Jefe a 35 year old on 11/15/04
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Ok....so I tried it again... I like it....I like it alot. A couple friends and I finished one of the Double Bastard magnums on Saturday night.....WOW!!! A bit too much Double Bastard can really screw up your evening... ; ) Also, Bevmo has magnums of Oaked Arrogant Bastard..... mmmmmmmmmmm!!!!!!!
Posted by CrzyRidr3 a 33 year old on 11/15/04
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yeah, my beer & wine guy at my local Bristol Farms was like "HEY! the Double Bastard is in if you want it..." and I did - so I got some and drank it and it was good! I also bought Unibroue's "La Terrible" for the first time yesterday - drank it last night - my new favorite from Unibroue - great flavor, strong abbey ale - delicious with Indian food!
Posted by Macrider a 38 year old on 11/15/04
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I saw the magnums of oaked AB and DB, but I wasn't sure about the taste. You personally tried the oaked DB and liked it? My place down here has the 3 liter magnum for $59.99. Anyone want to help me polish one off soon?
Posted by El Jefe a 35 year old on 11/16/04
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I was channel surfing just a few minutes ago and caught the tail end of a Cox cable access show where they did a full tour and history of Stone Brewery / Stone Brews. It was great. Now I need Stone. That is all.
Posted by El Jefe a 35 year old on 11/16/04
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I had a McTarnahan's Tripel last night. Cloudy orange, with a foamy head. The head dies quickly though, and the carbonation starts a little harsh. Luckily the carbonation dissipates quickly and settles into a more smooth mouth feel after sitting for a few minutes. Very sweet and fruity right up front, with a nice spicy nose. Pretty balanced up front, but the taste didn't linger long, and was somewhat overpowered by the alcohol taste. I guess that's to be expected with a 9.3% alcohol brew. Overall, it was a very pleasant beer. I'll probably snag a few more to stash in the cupboard.
Posted by El Jefe a 35 year old on 11/18/04
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Went to Gordon Biersch tonight and thought I'd end up with the usual Marzen but tried the new Winterbock. Very nice, sweet and strong with a somewhat overly foamy head and served in it's own Winterbock mug. I had two. Ran into JimN and talked bikes. Beer and bike talk... nice.
Posted by Endo Verendo on 12/03/04
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Words can't describe the indivudually numbered, 8.5 oz bottle of liquid lust that is Thomas Hardy's Ale. If there is a heaven, it will serve Thomas Hardy's. I'll have to go buy more to give a full description. At $6 for a single bottle, or $22 for a 4-pack of the 8.5oz bottles, this is a bargain. No really, it is. Simply amazing.
Posted by El Jefe a 35 year old on 12/13/04
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Where can I find this gem..??!! I've heard great things, but I've not seen it anywhere.....
Posted by CrzyRidr3 a 33 year old on 12/13/04
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Hollingshead's Deli. If you want, I'll pick up a 4 pack and we'll split it. I'd say we'll toss a couple back, but to just slug these beers down would be disrepectful to the brew.
Posted by El Jefe a 35 year old on 12/13/04
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Can we drink it with Tequila??!?!? ; )
Posted by CrzyRidr3 a 33 year old on 12/13/04
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I wouldn't use it as a mixer or chaser, but I don't see why we couldn't have a couple tasty sipping shots as well.
Posted by El Jefe a 35 year old on 12/13/04
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Have you tried Agavero? It's a mixture of Anejo tequila, Reposado tequila and damiano. Ugly round bottle....looks like a bowling ball with a neck.. The best tequila liqueur I've ever tasted. Hard to find here in the US, but every once in a while Bevmo will have them at the bottom of a shelf. Good stuff. No need for a chaser. Very sweet considering it's tequila...
Posted by CrzyRidr3 a 33 year old on 12/13/04
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Sign the petion at: http://www.beerdrinkersagainstthemistreatmentofbeer.com/index.php
Posted by Smithereen on 12/22/04
Save Cold Beer
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After having it on tap a couple weeks ago, I knew the brew of choice to start Christmas Eve off right would be a Widmer Snow Plow Milk Stout. Simply the best stout I've ever tasted.
Posted by El Jefe a 35 year old on 12/24/04
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Merry Christmas!Now, where'd you have it on tap? Seen it in bottles?
Posted by EBasil from the ranch in Chatsworth for Christmas on 12/24/04
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I had an old favorite for the first time in a few years: Spaten's Optimator. This is Spaten's version of Paulaner's Celebrator and keeps the -ator tradition going. Strong beer before the current trend and perfectly balanced, even to a hop-fiend.
Posted by EBasil from Coors Lite Country on 02/07/05
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The good Doc Santo introduced me to Bison Chocolate Stout after our ride on Friday. Brewed in Berkeley. Good stuff, not much of a stout drinker but this was great.
Posted by The REEL Moneyshot on 02/07/05
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Please find any remaining bottles of Stone's Russian Imperial Stout, drink and report back to us...
Posted by Macrider a 38 year old on 02/07/05
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I have one of Wild Bill's choco stouts (Bison is owned by Bill Moore) and another from Sam Adams that was brewed and bottled in their test brewery near Boston (almost everything else is contract brewed for their label). I gotta find the time and food to drink them together with. Good to hear the positive review of the Bison.
Posted by EBasil on 02/08/05
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I'm stuck in a beer rut of Chimay, Arrogant Bastard, Maudite, Hop Ottin and Stone IPA.
I don't need to get out of the rut, I'm quite happy here...(is it bad to look upon beers of less than 7.0% with distain?)
Posted by Black Bart on 02/07/05
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You guys been drinking Abita? I just got back from several days in New Orleans, where Abita is readily available in all forms, instead of just the rare case or two at BevMo. The Amber is heavy enough that it takes quite a toll when consumed in quantity, but it's clean and just hoppy enough to work out for the long haul. Found on tap in dive bars throughout the Marigny...
Posted by EBasil from a fat farm on 02/15/05
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I thought this thread was dead....if not, it should be shot.
Posted by GhostRider a 31 year old on 02/15/05
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I'll second that one. Even with DSL, it takes, like, forever to load.
Posted by Big Bad Ben a 36 year old on 02/15/05
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Like, oh my gawd!
Posted by CrzyRidr3 a 33 year old on 02/15/05
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Haven't tried that one.. But I did go to Trader Joe's to buy a 4-pack of some Lithuanian beer that I can't remember the name... Pretty skunky actually... I'll stick to the Hopf, Stone and Chimay.......with a little Del Dueno in between.. :-)
Posted by CrzyRidr3 a 33 year old on 02/15/05
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Whats the best beer to move on to if you are coming off of a 2 year Guinness kick?
Paz Afuera
Posted by Papisimo on 02/17/05
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Fermented water....? :)
I have to go to TJ's at lunch.....I think I'll try one of the other TJ's beer that I haven't tried yet...
Hmmmmmmmm......what beer to drink this evening...
Suggestions?
Posted by CrzyRidr3 a 33 year old on 03/04/05
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So far I like the Vienna Lager the best out of all of them. They just got in a couple new offerings from Northwest's Best. I tried the St. Helens Stout last night. It was very drinkable.
Posted by Endo Verendo on 03/04/05
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I'm gonna try the Vienna if it's there.. Otherwise, I'll try something completely different tonight... Don't know what....but something different.. :)
Posted by CrzyRidr3 a 33 year old on 03/04/05
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Have you tried Mirror Pond Pale Ale? Bevmo has 12'ers for 12 bucks....very good Pale....
Posted by CrzyRidr3 a 33 year old riding a SantaBansheeCruzScreamBlurr on 03/15/05
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DeChuttes Brewery...Oregon...
Posted by CrzyRidr3 a 33 year old riding a SantaBansheeCruzScreamBlurr on 03/15/05
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Best Beer Thread to the rescue, once again. Thanks, bud! 12 for 12 and from Deschutes... I got one for tonight's beer and bike building festival!
Posted by EBasil riding a Manitou HT or a Fisher Cake from San Diego on 03/18/05
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NICE!!! Glad I could help! :)
Posted by CrzyRidr3 a 33 year old riding a SantaBansheeCruzScreamBlurr on 03/18/05
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No aftertaste? The beer for drinkers that can't even handle fizzy yellow peewater beer. Does it come in fruit flavors? I bet it will...
Posted by EBasil riding a Keg out the bomb bay doors from San Diego on 03/15/05
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Fruity beer? Yup, I've had a few of them recently. The girlfriend isn't a big beer fan typically, so I've tried to introduce her to a few Lambics and fruit beers. Frambois and Lost Coast Rasberry are her faves, and I must say I don't mind splitting the bottle with her....of course, I supplement with a McTarnahan's Tripel or a Stone Old Guardian, but the fruity stuff isn't so bad.
Posted by El Jefe a 35 year old riding a V10, Blur Roadster and a CR125 from Trabuco Canyon on 03/22/05
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Just did a little adventure to Pizza Port in Solana Beach. I sampled one of thier Belgians but opted for their Sharkbitten Double Red Ale. It's remeniscent of A.B. in strength and hops but lacks the sweeter tones. My g.f. had thier Hefe which I have to admit was awesome. It was more like a Belgian White than a German style Hefe, thick and sweet. Yeah, I just said 'thick and sweet.'
Posted by Endo Verendo a 37 year old riding a Turner Flux from The Valley on 03/22/05
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Sad thread, funny post:
You can't cry over spilled milk but spilled beer is an entirely different matter.
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Before enlightenment; chop wood carry water. After enlightenment; chop wood, carry water.
Posted by Big Bad Ben a 36 year old Weekend Warrior riding a Raleigh & The XR250R from Hollywood on 03/25/05
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Statistically speaking, it had to happen sooner or later.
Posted by Big Bad Ben a 36 year old Weekend Warrior riding a Raleigh & The XR250R from Hollywood on 03/25/05
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Ok, the Craftsman beer brewed with Cabernet grapes that's on tap at Father's Office....pass.
Posted by Endo Verendo a 37 year old riding a Turner Flux from The Valley on 04/03/05
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eeewww... Sounds nasty....
I'm still liking the TJ's Vienna Lager. Gotta love a sixer for 5 bucks...
Posted by CrzyRidr3 a 33 year old riding a SantaBansheeCruzScreamBlurr on 04/06/05
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Check it out. For those of you in Santa Monica, sells at Kings Liquor on Santa Monica and Berkeley.
Posted by 2W4S riding a Bullit, DHR on 04/07/05
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My beloved bar, Kellly McCue's burned to the ground Friday morning. I guess I'll be drinking a lot less for a while.
Posted by El Jefe a 35 year old riding a V10, Blur Roadster and a CR125 from Trabuco Canyon on 04/11/05
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Holy Moly! That sucks. Story.
Posted by Endo Verendo a 37 year old riding a Turner Flux from The Valley on 04/11/05
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Email? Password?
GCBY.
Posted by Big Bad Ben a 36 year old Weekend Warrior riding a Raleigh & The XR250R from Hollywood on 04/11/05
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I always thought it was Beer, Broads, and Bikes...in that order. This thread has gone a full week w/o a post. WTF??? Are Broads and Bikes becoming more important?
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 Good stuff.
Posted by CrzyRidr3 a 33 year old riding a SantaBansheeCruzScreamBlurr on 04/22/05
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All this beer... *hic* where are my keys...?
Posted by Big Bad Ben a 36 year old Weekend Warrior riding a Raleigh & The XR250R from Hollywood on 04/22/05
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Just thought a visit to this thread might keep it going.....
I've been trying new stuff recently and found one last bottle of the 5/5/05 Stone.
Haven't opened yet... Someone gimme a good reason to, like a good review and I might just drink it tonight..
:)
Beer rules!
Posted by CrzyRidr33 a 33 year old Die-hard Enthusiast riding a SantaBansheeCruzBlurr on 05/23/05
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I split a bottle of the 5.5.05 with Aosty last week, review: Not very impressed, but this one may need to age first. Had undertones of what I would imagine a new tire might taste like. For the price, I would rather pick up a couple ABs or spend another buck or two for a Chimay. (Whole Foods near the SM Airport had a bunch last Tues.) Also had a Belgian (I think) that Endo gave him. Can't remember the name, but it had way to much going on with extra flavor additives. Finished up with some Lagunitas IPA, which is always a winner! After 4-5 hours of riding in the heat yesterday, a Wittekerke White Belgian Ale right out of the cooler tasted like the best beer ever! (note to self, invent beer with built in electrolytes) Also, thanks to you and Endo for bringing TJ's line of beers to my attention! The hefeweizen is one of the best US made wheat beers I have had, the Hofbrau bock is also fairly tastey, although a tad flat carbonation wise.
Posted by Black Bart a 32 year old Die-hard Enthusiast riding a Sugar+ on 05/23/05
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Gotta love TJ's 6 beers for 5 bucks, eh!?!?
BTW: Wittekerke White on a hot day could very well be the best beer ever... ; )
Posted by CrzyRidr33 a 33 year old Die-hard Enthusiast riding a SantaBansheeCruzBlurr on 05/23/05
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TJ's brand of beer are made by Gordon Bierch. Thanks for the White after the Chilao ride, it hit the spot. Went to FO after work this evening and had a Triple White Sage with my burger and sweet tater fries. Yum. Beer alert...... Vendome has Lost Coast Winterbrau Ale (6.5% and very tatey) for $3.99 /6pak !!!!!!!!!!! That is all.
Posted by Endo Verendo a 38 year old riding a Turner Flux from The Valley on 05/23/05
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No problemo. I brought a sixer thinking there'd be 5-6 of us riding, not 18! Good thing JimN came better prepared. I'm sorry, did you get permission to invade the 310 to satisfy your burger/beer craving? I was not notified, hopefully you cleared it with a duly appointed W.S. representative. :) Have not had the LC Winterbrau, but good beer for 3.99/6pak? One thing that makes the Valley appealing, ;^P
Posted by Black Bart a 32 year old Die-hard Enthusiast riding a Sugar+ from WeSsyyyyyde on 05/23/05
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I live in the valley and it is not appealing.. ; )
I still have yet to try the triple white sage at FO......I think I'm gonna make a trip out there sometime later this week.
Posted by CrzyRidr33 a 33 year old Die-hard Enthusiast riding a SantaBansheeCruzBlurr on 05/24/05
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The Craftsman Triple White Sage is seasonal - and it's not in season - go to FO anyway, but don't expect to get a glass of the White Sage.... plenty of other great beers there...
Posted by Macrider a 38 year old Die-hard Enthusiast riding a SC VP Free, Turner XCE & Evil D.O.C. from LA on 05/24/05
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So wtf was I drinking last night??
Posted by Endo Verendo a 38 year old Road Warrior riding a Look road bike from PCH on 05/24/05
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Also why I live in the valley.... at Vendome in Toluca Lake (and this happens often): Saturday, June 4, 2005, 2:00p.m. - 4:00p.m.
Help us welcome the Spring Season by indulging in some of the finest Bocks ever created. There will be a variety from Germany and a few from the United States. Learn about the history of Bock Beers and the many different styles. Come and enjoy!
Featuring:
Aktien-Brauerei St. Martin (Germany)
Allgauer St. Magnus Heller Bock (Germany)
EKU 28 (Germany)
Paulaner Salvator (Germany)
Spaten Optimator (Germany)
Weltenburger Kloster Asam-Bock (Germany)
Will-Brau Mai Bock (Germany)
Gordon Biersch Blonde Bock (U.S.A.)
Rogue Dead Guy Ale (U.S.A.)
Samuel Adams Double Bock (U.S.A.)
$1 per pour, $8 for entire flight. Snacks will be served.
Seating is Limited!
For R.S.V.P or more information, contact Brendan or Brian @ 818.766.9593
Posted by Endo Verendo a 38 year old riding a Turner Flux from The Valley on 05/24/05
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Nice! Most of those are pretty solid. That Will Brau is pretty spectacular especially if pulled off of a keg. While you have that pretty killer tasting in the Valley, in the "real" OC (No. County 714) we have Hollingshead which has Christmas in July. They cellar some of the better seasonal beers and line up all of the taps with them for a week in July. Oh yes, that is a good week. Oh, I can't wait.
Posted by GC riding a Hollingshead sammich on 05/26/05
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That's it. The office tomorrow early afternoon. I'm there.
Posted by El Jefe a 35 year old riding a V10, Blur Roadster and a CR125 from Trabuco Canyon on 05/26/05
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We're thinking a "happy hour" from 4 - 7 ish. I hear Kenny was putting on some nice Belgians...
Posted by GC riding a yak on 05/26/05
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Three words, boys. Reaper Red Ale Out of style for a red; hoppy, light malt and no residual sweetness. Slight taste of roasted malt but dry and clean on the finish. This is one damned good beer. For the OC locals, there is some on tap at Hollingshead but it won't be there long. Had lunch there on Saturday and the Reaper Red was going quick.
Posted by GC on 06/06/05
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Any write up's on Arrogant Bastard. I have heard many speak of it...but no details. Picked up a few pints at Bristol Farms.
Posted by John Galt a 32 year old Downhiller riding a M-1 from The Gulch on 05/31/05
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It is the beer that put Lee on the map and started it all. Check Beeradvocate.com
Posted by GC on 05/31/05
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Alesmith Horny Devil Ale. A Belgian style brewed with coriander. Amazing. It has a distinctive belgian yeast flavor with deep fruity esters and a slippery but not greasy initial mouth-feel with a very dry finish. Light amber to orange in color, lightly carbonated with a light lacey head. Though it is 11% alcohol with pronounced alcohol taste, the full malty flavor and spiciness of the coriander, as well as hints of peppercorn and citrus offset the alcohol taste nicely and make this one of the best beers I've ever had.
Posted by El Jefe a 35 year old riding a V10, Blur Roadster and a CR125 from Trabuco Canyon on 06/06/05
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Hints of popcorn? Is that buttered or the lowfat dry popcorn?
Posted by GC riding a bullship meter on 06/06/05
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In the words of Roseanna Roseanna Danna.... Never mind.
Posted by GC riding a Popcorn peppercorn from humiliation street on 06/06/05
Dumbass of the week
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I've got to kick something out next weekend for July 4 (having a bbq). It would have to be something good for summer and good young. I've got a wit in primary right now and am thinking just a basic mild pale, that is unless you have some suggestions.
Posted by GC on 06/06/05
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email the recipe and I'll plug it into Promash and bust out the formulations and come out with a gravity, IBU and SRM reading. I'll shoot it back to you and we can tweak it from there.
Posted by GC on 06/08/05
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Semi celeb sighting at the office (Hollingshead) today. Headed there before my paddle and ran into Fred Durst. He was trying to be low key and frankly, no one there gives a rats arse about status so he almost blended in (heck, most of the guys there could buy and sell him three times over). Beer related: They have this Winterbrau on tap that is amazing. Kenny H. sent us home with a 12'er for a bunch of us to watch the Tyson melt down with. Great beer. Tyson related: His manager threw in the towel in the sixth after he got dropped (after many attempts and headbutts and breaking the other fighter's arm). He claimed he'd never fight again and that he was doing it to pay his bills (like we didn't know that). This poor slob of a fighter left the ring high as a kite, thinking he beat Tyson and will surely get his hat handed to him in the next one. More beer related: That Willbrau Kenny snuck into the box is an amazing light bock. Amazing. Malty, subtle, simple and very satisfying. Yet another Hollingshead recommendation that was spot on.
Posted by GC riding a Hollingshead Pimpin' on 06/11/05
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Man, I could've used a brew or two this weekend. I worked almost non-stop Saturday afternoon through Sunday evening. I hate when my cushy job makes me actually work.
So enough about other people's beer...when are we brewing?
Posted by El Jefe on 06/13/05
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The office, manana. Noonish or before (the cleaning crew comes at 11). Be there to discuss plans. Got it? Good. Bring my newly idolized and burned out EBasil as well. :)
Posted by GC on 06/15/05
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Just a reminder for you out of towners and locals alike. "Christmas in July" at Hollingshead is mere weeks away. This is were Kenny Hollingshead has aged some of the BEST winterbeers and Christmas ales and put them on all taps for one week. Amazing how some of those beers cellar. Perhaps we should ride Oaks and hit Hollingshead's afterwards on a Saturday, although they close at 4 on Sat. An early ride at Oaks (8AM) and then head over at 11AM when they open?
Posted by GC on 06/15/05
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Anyone into meads? I brewed one a year ago and cracked open one of the bottles over the weekend. It was GOOD.... I've never really done any "mead research" before brewing it, but it was light in body, refreshing and had a very subtle but complex profile on the palate. Are there any commercially produced meads on the market? Looks like I'm brewing more meads...
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been drinking that for a year at least - at Father's Office....are you still on V-brakes too? get with the program for God's sake!
Posted by Macrider a 38 year old Die-hard Enthusiast riding a SC VP Free, Turner XCE & Evil D.O.C. from LA on 06/06/05
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I've heard of Peer Pressure, but Beer Pressure is much more intense.
Posted by GhostRider a 31 year old Downhiller on 06/06/05
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#699
Posted by CrzyRidr33 a 33 year old Die-hard Enthusiast riding a SantaBansheeCruzBlurr on 06/07/05
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700!!!!!
Everyone drink a beer.......NOW!!!!!!!!!!!
; )
Woohoo....longest thread ever, and it's about beer!! Gotta love this site!! :)
Posted by CrzyRidr33 a 33 year old Die-hard Enthusiast riding a SantaBansheeCruzBlurr on 06/07/05
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 Belzebuth. Oh good god. Purchased at Hollingshead's Deli in Orange, CA. When I opened the 8.4oz bottle, I immediately felt the aroma of citrusy fruit, sweet malt with a liccorace-like overtone, and a light spiciness that said clove and peppercorn wafting into my nose and throat, exciting my olfactory senses with a strangely familiar, yet comfortably unique presence. As I poured the unassuming looking golden ale into a glass, I noticed a tight frothing that didn't stick around for long, choosing to settle into a 1/4" tall afterthought of light white head. As I took my first sip, the sweetness of malt and fruity, perhaps apricot esters of the yeast settled pleasantly on my tongue. There was definitely a smoothness to the brew, balanced well with moderate carbonation. Apricot gave way to citrus, and malt gave way to Licorice as the beer tossed around in my mouth. The golden brew continued to the back of my throat and almost begged me to quaff a large mouthful rather than sip the complexly sweet brew. As I swallowed, a strong port or Madeira came to mind as the strong alcoholic taste and dry feel warmed my gullet and offered peppercorn and spice to balance the malty sweetness up front. The remaining brew left in the glass begged me to allow it to join the first sip in the bottom of my belly and soon it had its wish. Before the 13% alcohol could take effect, the intoxicating aroma and flavor of this absolutely unique brew had me offering a deal with the devil for unlimited supplies of this amazing beer.
Posted by El Jefe on 06/21/05
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Substitute a "few" words and you could have the entire dialogue for a "good" porn movie.......
Posted by GhostRider a 31 year old Downhiller on 06/21/05
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Well, good sex and good beer are similar. The sight and scent excites you, the subtle complexities of the body and head peak your interest and arousal, and a great finish leaves you intoxicated yet wanting more. The big difference is with beer, you're the one who swallows.
Posted by El Jefe on 06/21/05
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Focus boys, focus. Beer only here. ;-)
I realized last night that my current 3 favorite beers are all linked by name reference.
Horny Devil, Duvel, and Belzebuth. I sure hope I'm going to hell.
Posted by El Jefe on 06/22/05
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Duvel Rocks!!! Have you tried Hobgoblin Dark Ale by Whychwood Brewery? Damn good stuff.... I know, no hell references.....but good beer.. : )
Posted by CrzyRidr33 a 33 year old Die-hard Enthusiast riding a SantaBansheeCruzBlurr on 06/22/05
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I haven't tried it. I'll look for it. Speaking of beer, it's 12:17pm on Wednesday. Time for Hollingshead's!!!
Posted by El Jefe on 06/22/05
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Dang that's a great brew! Who knew the French could make beer?  Available at Whole Foods.
Posted by Black Bart on 07/06/05
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Yep, it's downright amazing. I've been on a real Belgian kick lately. The Belzebuth is definitely more of a Belgian style if you could even put a name to it. Speaking of Belgian ales, GC and I brewed Belgian Strong Ale over the holiday weekend. We started with a Duvel clone that then became somewhat bastardized. Hopping in the mash with only half the prescribed initial hops should change the profile a bit, and an extra half ounce of Fuggles hops at flame out was done in hopes of adding some nose without the bitterness. We added more candisugar and reduced the corn sugar which should give a nice dryness to the brew, with some warm alcoholic overtones. We used a Belgian Ale yeast from White Labs, hoping it will be able to handle the high gravity and net us a good 9-10% alcohol brew when all is said and done. Oh yeah, I tossed in just a bit of corriander as well. shhhh....
Posted by El Jefe a 36 year old on 07/06/05
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Yeah, definetly more similar to a Belgian than anything else. "Speaking of ....... shhhh..." So, you guys made some beer? :^P
Posted by Black Bart on 07/06/05
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Yeah, GC brews a good bit, and I used to brew 2-3 times per month way back when I didn't have a bunch of other crap to deal with in my life. This was my first batch start to finish that I'd done in many years. GC let me tweak the recipe a bit and I believe he's allowing me to name the brew. I think we'll force-carbonate part of the batch for kegging, and I'll bottle condition some of them to see how they compare to the force-carbed ones. From my experience, we should have a pretty short initial fermentation at the higher temps- maybe 6 days. I'd like to do a longer, 3 week secondary cool temp fermentation, but we may pull some of it and do a little tasting after another week.
Posted by El Jefe a 36 year old on 07/06/05
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Newcomb's Ranch Inn on Angeles Crest Hwy has Craftsman's 1903 and Hefeweizen on tap. That is all.
Posted by Black Bart on 08/01/05
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I just tried a Boont's Brewery Amber Ale last night. Very tasty. Didn't expect the full-bodied flavor and sweet after taste of this one..... Highly recommended... :)
Posted by CrzyRidr33 a 33 year old Die-hard Enthusiast riding a SantaBansheeCruzBlurr on 08/05/05
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Boont's rocks! Grant's "Hopzilla" IPA on the other hand... For a beer that hypes itself as a hop monster this stuff tastes like unhopped wort. Way too sweet for an IPA.
Posted by Black Bart on 08/05/05
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Stoudt's IPA, consumed at hollingshead's deli, Orange, CA. The Stoudt's was a deep amber in color, very clear. For as thick and sticky the white head that clung to the glass was on initial pour, it dissipated in the brew fairly quickly. An overwhelming essence of orange and grapefruit consumed the nose on initial approach. A combo of citrusy aroma hops and malt attacked the senses before a tongue could touch the amber liquid. Once quaffed, the malty mouth feel and sweet sugary malt flavor eclipsed the mostly olfactory essence of hops and made for quite an overwhelmingly sweet and malty brew compared to other IPA's. A dry finish (no doubt due to the 10 % alcohol) allowed for the hops to follow through with a strong finish and lend some degree of credibility to this brew being an IPA. I'd say that while this is one of the best, most drinkable brews I've experienced in some time, it's far from a textbook IPA or double IPA. Way too malty to be a real IPA, this brew really does better as an uncategorized strong ale. I found the malty sweetness to be just the thing I needed to digest this gem of a brew on a Tuesday afternoon. I highly recommend Stoudt's Double IPA as very short session beer. I'd recommend it as a (regular) session beer, but at 10% alcohol, I doubt too many of us would last a whole evening. BTW- I shall be hosting a beer tasting in the next few weeks. Please contact me at Jarvis.Jeff@(nospam-remove this portion)gmail.com for info, orJJarvis@(nospam-remove this portion)uci.edu to include ourself on the list. The tasting will be held at my place on a Thursday evening. Cost will be negligible. ($3-8)
Posted by El Jefe a 36 year old on 08/09/05
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Damn you to hell, Thursday!!!!!! ; )
Posted by CrzyRidr33 a 33 year old Die-hard Enthusiast riding a SantaBansheeCruzBlurr on 08/09/05
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BRUSSELS (Reuters) - Monks at a Belgian abbey have been forced to stop selling their famous beer after it was voted the best in the world and was promptly sold out.
The abbey of Saint Sixtus of Westvleteren in western Belgium is home to some 30 Cistercian and Trappist monks who lead a life of seclusion, prayer, manual labor -- and beer-brewing.
A survey of thousands of beer enthusiasts from 65 countries on the RateBeer Web site (www.ratebeer.com) in June rated the Westvleteren 12 beer as the world's best. But the abbey only has a limited brewing capacity, and was not able to cope with the beer's sudden popularity. "Our shop is closed because all our beer has been sold out," said a message on the abbey's answering machine, which it calls the "beer phone." And the abbey has no intention of boosting its capacity to satisfy market demand. "We are not brewers, we are monks. We brew beer to be able to afford being monks," the father abbot said on the abbey's Web site. Monk Mark Bode told De Morgen daily: "Outsiders don't understand why we are not raising production. But for us life in the abbey comes first, not the brewery."
/cry
Posted by CrzyRidr33 a 33 year old Die-hard Enthusiast riding a SantaBansheeCruzBlurr on 08/11/05
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It is always sad when a great beer can't be purchased at will. I've never tasted this brew, but damnit, I'm going to find it.
Posted by El Jefe a 36 year old on 08/12/05
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If/when you do, please let me know.... :) I will do the same...
Posted by CrzyRidr33 a 33 year old Die-hard Enthusiast riding a SantaBansheeCruzBlurr on 08/12/05
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Sam Adams Cherry Wheat and Pyramid Apricot Ale. The two best fruity beers I've tasted.
Posted by JasonLee a 28 year old Weekend Warrior from Chatsworth on 01/19/06
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S.L.O. Blueberry wheat the only fruit beer that dosen't wretch.
Posted by Coke Eyes on 01/31/06
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 Stone 04.04.04 Vertical Epic Ale
Growler Fills Only ($12 - Limit 1)
February 24th & 25th
Posted by Tha Professor a 32 year old Weekend Warrior on 02/23/06
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Kasteel. Golden style belgian. 12% content. 750ml. Available at Cafe Chloe in the Gaslamp. Check it out. http://www.cafechloe.com/pages/1/index.htm
http://www.beersofeurope.co.uk/acatalog/Beers_of_Europe__Kasteel_65.html
Posted by Veinman a old year old riding a Unknown from SD on 03/01/06
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The following is an amplification of my previous post as I sit here and watch re-runs of the Chapelle show. Funny thing is that I haven't been on this site in at least a couple of years much less posted anything. And the only thread I found interesting enough to respond to was this one. Says something doesn't it. Not that I don't like riding or talking about riding but posting about beer is so much more interesting. Today I stopped at the San Diego Brewing Co. on my way home from Mission Trails to have a couple of pints. My first selection was Roque's Skull Splitter and my second was Afflingem Abbey. I probably should have reversed the order having the smaller Afflingem first and the bigger Roque second. But, both were very good. Bottom line, if you are ever in SD and need a brew afterwords, SD brewing Co. has quite a selection including Hoogardern and Chimay white, two of my favorites.
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P.S. right now in my fridge i have a bunch of winterbrews left over from the holidays:
Pyramid Snowcap
Left hand Milk Stoudt
Winterhook
Sam Adams Winterlager
Anchorsteam winterbrew
JubilaleWhat's in yours?
Posted by Veinman a very year old riding a unk from SD on 03/01/06
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Firestone Double Barrel Ale. You can pick up a case for 19.99 and it taste great. It is a staple beer. As for winter brew from the holidays......Beer doesn't last long in my fridge, it all goes in my belly quickly. :)
Posted by Lag a 31 year old riding a Double Barrel Donkey Kong Style from SLO on 03/02/06
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Monty Python's Holt Ale is tasty dark and refreshing . The only beer that does taste good at room tempature .
Posted by Coke Eyes on 03/10/06
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Ooops the is " Holy Ale " . The G is crossed out on Holy Grail .
Posted by Coke Eyes on 03/10/06
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What is the best beer for watching the Laker game Sunday?
Posted by Tha Professor a 32 year old Weekend Warrior riding a GF 29er on 04/29/06
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Whatever will make you choke...like the Lakers
Posted by Crzyridr33 a 34 year old Die-hard Enthusiast riding a SantaBansheeCruzBlurr on 05/08/06
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Or... Try this...
Posted by Crzyridr33 a 34 year old Die-hard Enthusiast riding a SantaBansheeCruzBlurr on 05/08/06
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Can you believe it? The state of California gave me a license to sell liquor. Oh boy. Oh yeah, hi!
Posted by El Jefe a 36 year old riding a Sahara Lounge from Palm Springs and Dana Point on 06/01/06
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Just couldn't stand to see this thread drop off the map. Oh yeah, Sahara Lounge is open...only 116 degrees out here today. Maybe it's time for an STP-esque flog?
Posted by El Jefe a 36 year old on 07/14/06
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Sorry to burst your beer bubble, but this site is officially dead. Last rites were read last nite.
Posted by GhostRider a 31 year old Downhiller on 07/22/06
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Pull out the defibulator!!! We've got a pulse.....
I will be drinking a large shot of tequila (Milagro anejo) with a nice pint of Fat Tire to chase...
mmmmmmmmm
:)
Posted by Crzyridr33 a 34 year old Die-hard Enthusiast riding a SantaBansheeCruzBlurr on 01/24/07
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This guy right here  will lay your @ss out!
Posted by RightArm on 02/01/07
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Either way, that bottle lays my a$$ out... Love it!
Posted by Crzyridr33 a 34 year old Die-hard Enthusiast riding a SantaBansheeCruzBlurr on 02/01/07
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thump thump......thump thump.....
Is that a heartbeat I hear??
Fat Tire and Chimay White on Tap at the Work Room. What a great way to start the weekend..
Posted by Crzyridr33 a 35 year old Die-hard Enthusiast riding a very light bike on 08/24/07
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Posted by The real fatcat 
nice ride
