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These great beer posts got me to try all the Stone offerings. I conclude that the Double Bastard Ale is A+. Happy B-Day FatCat. <:-)
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Fatty, I just want to take you under my wing just like Dusty, Inkpad, Sgt Brown and others did to me with my riding and bike knowledge. You really need an education in bikes, beer, life.... I haven't given up hope on you yet, but then again, I am a glutton for punishment. Sapporo is not beer. Beer is water, yeast, hops and BARLEY MALT. Not rice, not corn. Sapporo is not beer. Thank you, that is all. (PS- neither is Coor's, Bud, Miller, etc...)
Posted by El Jefe a 34 year old riding a Blinging V10, ghetto Stinky, Azonic P, & a SS Kona Cowan from Trabuco Canyon on 01/14/04
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And maybe wheat. No lemon please. :)
Posted by Black Bart a 31 year old Die-hard Enthusiast riding a Sugar+ from Santa Monica on 01/14/04
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Word is born El Jeffy, word is BORN! I agree you have to allow wheat into the mix btw - and NO FRUIT IN BEER!
Posted by Macrider a 37 year old Die-hard Enthusiast riding a Turner RFX, XCE & Trek Bruiser 2 from LA on 01/14/04
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Disagree. The ONLY time fruit is acceptable is in combination with wheat. And I don't mean a slice of lemon. I mean *IN* the brewing process. Other than that--no fruit. Reinhiesghebott for ever. Or some such spelling.
Posted by Surly a 28 year old Die-hard Enthusiast riding a '02 Giant AC from Pasadena on 01/14/04
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ahhhh, that IS acceptable, I have been know to drink Frambois (sp?) - and that's got raspberries in the second (bottle) fermentation I meant squeezed into the bottle....
Posted by Macrider a 37 year old Die-hard Enthusiast riding a Turner RFX, XCE & Trek Bruiser 2 from LA on 01/14/04
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Si, si, wheat is acceptable and I believe there is some kind of exception for Weissbier in the Reinheitsgebot, but for the fruit, even in brewing? Well, it's mighty tasty, but it ain't beer. Gottdamn Belgians and French...... If anyone puts a lemon near my beer, I'll kick em in the hopsack....
Posted by El Jefe a 34 year old riding a Blinging V10, ghetto Stinky, Azonic P, & a SS Kona Cowan from Trabuco Canyon on 01/14/04
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I thought Sapporo complies with the Rheinheitghebot. It was formerly a German brewery, after all. Check it out. I haven't recently, but I think they're all malt.
Posted by EBasil riding a Manitou HT from San Diego on 01/14/04
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Nope, rice and cornstarch are ingredients. Come on, seriously, can't you taste it? I've had Sapporo before and asked the waitress to stop serving me liquid rice cakes. click on technology and then on ingredients.
Posted by El Jefe a 34 year old riding a Blinging V10, ghetto Stinky, Azonic P, & a SS Kona Cowan from Trabuco Canyon on 01/14/04
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Bastards. Is nothing sacred?! This was a German brewery for god's sake!! Well, I guess Augustus Busch was onna them lederhosen boys, too, and look what that got us.
Posted by EBasil riding a Manitou HT from San Diego on 01/14/04
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Even worse, Sapporo has decided to re-write the basic ingredients of beer. Did you know that according to Sapporo, there are 5 basic ingredients? WTF!!!
Posted by El Jefe a 34 year old riding a Blinging V10, ghetto Stinky, Azonic P, & a SS Kona Cowan from Trabuco Canyon on 01/14/04
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Saying Sake is rice beer, is like saying wine is grape beer. Rice is not an ingredient in beer. I thought more of you than this Endo. I'm horribly disappointed. ;-)
Posted by El Jefe a 34 year old riding a Blinging V10, ghetto Stinky, Azonic P, & a SS Kona Cowan from Trabuco Canyon on 01/14/04
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Ugh, there's just no getting through to some people
Posted by El Jefe a 34 year old riding a Blinging V10, ghetto Stinky, Azonic P, & a SS Kona Cowan from Trabuco Canyon on 01/14/04
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Oh pa-leeze. Sake is brewed, not vinted like wine. And it's got more kick than most beers. Don't get me wrong, I drink way more beer (and wine- antioxidants, ya know) than I do sake. But if I have to choose at a sushi bar between a weak beer and a nice, cold sake....
Posted by Endo Verendo riding a Nother Turner from The Valley on 01/14/04
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Front wheel man is right on this one: Sake' is brewed just as one would do with beer, except that there are not usually any flavorings added (like hops or different roasts of rice). It's referred to as "Rice Wine" in the context that some malt beverages are "Barley Wine".
Posted by EBasil riding a Motiv Super Nine from San Diego on 01/15/04
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You missed my point. I wasn't comparing methods of creating the concoction, I was commenting on the ingredients. I've enjoyed a good sake a few times (and a really bad one once). I also like liquor and wine. Hell, at the river I've even been known to drink a Coor's Light, but I wouldn't call it beer either. Let me put it this way; Sake is a good drink, but not beer. Just like that Look you have is a bicycle, but not in any way shape or form a mountain bike. See?
Posted by El Jefe a 34 year old riding a Blinging V10, ghetto Stinky, Azonic P, & a SS Kona Cowan from Trabuco Canyon on 01/15/04
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You know at first I thought it was strange that you were putting down any form of alcohol. ;-)
Posted by Endo Verendo riding a Nother Turner from The Valley on 01/15/04
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Oh, so now Coors Light isn't good beer?!What will the fey fay drink? Can I have lime with that?
Posted by EBasil riding a Microbus full of trash from San Diego on 01/15/04
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< sound of Jeff keeling over and fainting from the horror....oh the horror .mp3 />
Posted by El Jefe a 34 year old riding a Blinging V10, ghetto Stinky, Azonic P, & a SS Kona Cowan from Trabuco Canyon on 01/15/04
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Can you pour my Guinness faster, I am in a hurry... Nah, I dont want a Stone IPA, Thanks though. I will take a wine cooler if you have one. Can you make me a dark and tan, using Guinness and Miller Light. DOH!
Posted by Lagwagon a 29 year old riding a Rootbeer blur bullit from Aliso Viejo on 01/15/04
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You hae successfully caused me to have a seizure.
Posted by El Jefe a 34 year old riding a Blinging V10, ghetto Stinky, Azonic P, & a SS Kona Cowan from Trabuco Canyon on 01/15/04
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Their Hopdevil IPA and Storm King Imperial Stout are excellent as well. Used to be a staple for me in college where it was easy to find. Maybe it's been mentioned before; I haven't had time to browse the old threads.
Posted by Mess on 01/18/04
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I went to go buy some more Double Bastard yesterday and--THE HORROR--someone bought all the remaining bottles a couple hours earlier!!! The oh-so-knowledgable beer guy @ Whole Foods recommended the Alesmith Anvil Ale, ESB. It's no DB, but it's bottle conditioned and very tasty. Alesmith I also picked up a Mortney Double IPA that I'll report on shortly.
Posted by Surly a 28 year old Die-hard Enthusiast riding a '02 Giant AC from Pasadena on 01/20/04
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Lucky Baldwins in Pasadena will be having a Belgian beer festival starting Feb. 14th. 50 Beligians ON TAP! How about a Merrill's/Sunset/ El P ride and then hit the fest?
Posted by Endo Verendo riding a Nother Turner from The Valley on 01/22/04
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Cool! I'll be there this Friday evening, too.
Posted by Surly a 28 year old Die-hard Enthusiast riding a '02 Giant AC from Pasadena on 01/22/04
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ohhhhhhhhhhh.......ohhhhhhhhhhhhh I might just have to sneak out for this one...I wonder if we are doing trial work that day...
Posted by GC on 01/22/04
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Damn, that sounds fun - but I'll be in NYC drinking up Sex and the City's free booze at the wrap party...
Posted by Macrider a 37 year old Die-hard Enthusiast riding a Turner RFX, XCE & Trek Bruiser 2 from LA on 01/22/04
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You're in NYC for Valentine's Day? I hope the SO is tagging along, otherwise you'll be in big trouble mister. :-)
Posted by El Jefe a 34 year old riding a Blinging V10, ghetto Stinky, Azonic P, & a SS Kona Cowan from Trabuco Canyon on 01/22/04
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Dude, I am king GOD right now with the SO - I'm taking her to hang out with SJP and company on Valentine's day at one of NYC's hottest nightspots - end of an era...
Posted by Macrider a 37 year old Die-hard Enthusiast riding a Turner RFX, XCE & Trek Bruiser 2 from LA on 01/22/04
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Dude's- it only starts on the 14th! There's no way our other halves will let us have fun on that day. I think the fest goes for a couple weeks. Ride date to come.
Posted by Endo Verendo riding a Nother Turner from The Valley on 01/22/04
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OH! then count me in brah!
Posted by Macrider a 37 year old Die-hard Enthusiast riding a Turner RFX, XCE & Trek Bruiser 2 from LA on 01/22/04
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I think there might be a VQ pre-ride of some kind on the 21st, but that's the best Saturday for a ride-beer-fest while they still have fresh kegs.
Posted by Endo Verendo riding a Nother Turner from The Valley on 01/26/04
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And you were where?
Posted by Endo Verendo riding a Nother Turner from The Valley on 02/21/04
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FYI..... Belgian Beer night at BJ's Brewery in Woodland Hills this Wed. night at 7:30. I know, last minute, but several of us are going. Linkee
Posted by Endo Verendo riding a Nother Turner from The Valley on 02/03/04
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Engrish? Ha! That's classic! PS-had to bump the beer threads back to the top. :-)
Posted by El Jefe a 34 year old riding a Blinging V10, ghetto Stinky, Azonic P, & a SS Kona Cowan from Trabuco Canyon on 02/04/04
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YO, yo, yo. Belgian Beer Fest ride: Sat. Feb 21st. Meet at JPL at 10, hit the Merrills, Sunset and El P then cruise over to Lucky Baldwins for 51 Belgians ON TAP! and Belgian food! LINKEE
Posted by Endo Verendo riding a Nother Turner from The Valley on 02/09/04
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Bump. Saturday y'all.
Posted by Endo Verendo riding a Nother Turner from The Valley on 02/17/04
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Are you all going rain or shine? I've been lurking for a couple weeks now and would like to go along for the ride. I don't know if I'll be able to make the belgian beer fest cause I got work at 2. But thats OK I've been twice already.Mmmmmmmmmmm, good beer!
Posted by Uhkuhjillion a 28 year old Cross-Country riding a bolt of lightning sent by Zeus from pasadena on 02/20/04
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The latest is....well not sure yet. We'll either meet at Chaney Tr. instead and climb up to Insp. Pt. and do Merrill and Sunset, or meet at La Tuna and do a loop.
Posted by Endo Verendo riding a Nother Turner from The Valley on 02/20/04
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Same place, same time but be prepared to drive a short way to another trailhead depending on the weather. Either way we'll end up at Lucky Baldwins for much beer and food cooked in beer.
Posted by Endo Verendo riding a Nother Turner from The Valley on 02/20/04
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BevMo, Carmel Mtn. Shelter, Raison and Indian Brown. No IPA.
Posted by EBasil riding a Manitou HT from San Diego on 02/12/04
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Reviewed: Dogfish Chicory StoutThe aroma of both the coffee and chicory thrown into this stunt-stout are detectable, but the absence of milk sugars leaves it thin on the palate and leaves a short half-life on the head. My light-beer buddy actually asked for one after he tried a sip. Not bad, but not Worthy.
Posted by EBasil riding a Manitou HT from San Diego on 02/23/04
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Nah, chicory doesn't taste bad in either, although I don't have any particular need to find it in my beer. I imagine today's weather in San Diego is pretty similar to that in New Orleans and if it weren't Mardi Gras right now, I'd sure enjoy sitting down on a bench in Jackson Square with the paper, a plate of beignet, a cup of chicory coffee and my cell phone to conduct business, lahk a gennelman.
Posted by EBasil riding a shiny bicycle from San Diego on 02/24/04
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Cafe du Monde's beignets are great, but they've duped tourists into thinking crappy coffee and chicory somehow works well together. Don't forget they added chicory in the first place because they didn't like the taste of coffee. Kind of like adding a lime to crappy Mexican piss beer to make it taste better.
Posted by Endo Verendo riding a Nother Turner from The Valley on 02/24/04
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Actually, I think they began drinking straight chicory, as the injuns did, when coffee shipments were blocked during the War of 1812. They couldn't get coffee, so they gargled what they could get, and then mixed it with coffee when the trade routes reopened. That's how I heard it, at least.Lime in beer is because it makes for a great photo.
Posted by EBasil riding a SuperGo Special from San Diego on 02/24/04
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That's the way I heard it about chicory as well - although it may have been the Civil War, with it's Union blockade of the South, that resulted in the addition or substitution of chicory (a native plant) for coffee, an imported one - many in the South had grown used to the taste by war's end, and added chicory to coffee for flavor even when they didn't have to...they also despise steamed milk in the Big Easy - you have to scald it in a pan for a true Cafe au Lait....
Posted by Macrider a 37 year old Die-hard Enthusiast riding a Turner RFX, XCE & Trek Bruiser 2 from LA on 02/24/04
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Link. It still doesn't mean it tastes good. Ok, back to BEER. Has anyone tried Avery's The Reverend yet?
Posted by Endo Verendo riding a Nother Turner from The Valley on 02/24/04
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On my trip to Oakland for business, I had some free time and found this bar in Jack London Square. Barclays The first evening, I sampled many of the 21 beers on tap, including local brews, Belgians, cask conditioned ales, and of course, Guinness. I walked into the bar on the second evening, wearing my Nema jacket due to the cold and pending rain. Chuck, one of the owners, was wearing a north Face jacket with an emroidered Guinness logo. I told him I needed that jacket. He in turn said, "get me some Nema shorts and we"ll talk." He then said Nema, shorts are his favorite riding shorts, and that my jacket clued him in that I ride. the guy is an avid mountain biker, rides an Ellsworth Truth, and loves beer. Instant drinking buddies! I polished off a Lost Coast Downtown Brown, 6 or 7 guinness pints, some hybrid brew from wheatbeer malt and barleywine yeast called "Oh whatever," McEwan's Scottish ale, Courage Imperial Stout, and Young's Old Nick. Then he broke out the private reserve. We drank all three Chimay ales, a couple Barley wines I can't pronounce, and a Tripel Rochefort 10. AMAZING! This is perhaps the best bar in America. Thanks Chuck!
Posted by El Jefe a 34 year old riding a Blinging V10, ghetto Stinky, Azonic P, & a SS Kona Cowan from Trabuco Canyon on 02/26/04
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after all that did you two head up to SF City Hall and get married? (not that there is anything wrong with that!) sounds like a nice selection of tasty brews....
Posted by Macrider a 37 year old Die-hard Enthusiast riding a Turner RFX, XCE & Trek Bruiser 2 from LA on 02/26/04
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Nope, he's already married to a woman, but we did share some lovely beers.
Posted by El Jefe a 34 year old riding a Blinging V10, ghetto Stinky, Azonic P, & a SS Kona Cowan from Trabuco Canyon on 02/26/04
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Road trip! Aosty and I need to tie the knot anyway, so kill two birds.......
Posted by Endo Verendo on 02/26/04
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I'd be up for that. Ride all day, drink beer at Barclay's all evening, then stay at Hilton Homewood Suites just down the road. I get a state government employee rate which gave me a 600sq ft place for $140 a night. (2 bedroom, 2 bath, livingroom, kitchen, breakfast area) Question- I wanna be in the wedding, but do I get to be the best man, or must I purchase a bride's maid dress?
Posted by El Jefe a 34 year old riding a Blinging V10, ghetto Stinky, Azonic P, & a SS Kona Cowan from Trabuco Canyon on 02/26/04
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Up there you'd have to be in a brides maid dress and people would actually like to see your butt.
Posted by Endo Verendo on 02/26/04
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No wonder I got so many free drinks....
Posted by El Jefe a 34 year old riding a Blinging V10, ghetto Stinky, Azonic P, & a SS Kona Cowan from Trabuco Canyon on 02/26/04
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To hell with Delaware, and the whole east coast, anyway.Last night, I quaffed an Acme IPA, brewed under the Acme label by North Coast Brewing. It worked far better than most of the products I'm used to from that brand... Snappy with a Cascade nose and light to medium amber color/flavor.
Posted by EBasil riding a keg out the bomb bay doors from San Diego on 02/27/04
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Aosty and I did a reconnaissance mission to the Belgian fest last night. $3 for a sample mini Chimay glass and $5 for a regular glass. They also had dishes like mussels steamed in beer and rabbit stew braised with beer. Here's a list of what they had on tap.... PilaarBijter Red
Abbaye des Rocs Grand Cru (6 year old keg)
Petrus Winter
Kasteel Triple 11%
Cantillon Kriek Lambic
Saxo 8%
Babbalaar
La Binchoise Reserve Amber 9.5%
McChouffe
Hoegaarden
Wittekerke
Maredsous 10%
Chouffe Mars
Wrivelds Wit
St Bernardus Prior 8
Caracole Troublette
Het Kapittel ABT 10%
N'ice Chouffe Barleywine 10.%
Chimay Triple
Brasseririe Vapeur Cochonnette 9%
Silly Saison
St. Feuillien Noel 8.5%
Bornem Triple 9%
Liefmanns Goudenband
Scotch de Silly 8%
Liefmans Frambozen
Leute Bok Bier
De Dolle Oerbier
Grimbergen Double
pater Lieven Blonde
De Koninck Cuvee
ValDieu Brown (hand pumped)
Fantome Saison
Val Dieu Triple
Leffe Brown
Noel De Silly
de Koninck Winter
Monks Cafe Flemish Red
Stella
Pilaarbijter Blonde
Gouden Carolus Brown
GoudenCarolus Noel
KWAK Needless to say, I'm not feeling so well today.
Posted by Endo Verendo riding a Nother Turner from The Valley on 02/18/04
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That's quite a list! How's the fest "work"?Do they offer Coors Light, in case I need to clean a stain out of my shirt?
Posted by EBasil riding a New Belgian Cruiser from San Diego on 02/18/04
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I don't think they've ever offered Coors light there. The fest works by ordering a beer from the list and then drinking it. :-) Which in fact is harder than you might think since the bartenders at Lucky's aren't known for thier patience.
Posted by Endo Verendo riding a Nother Turner from The Valley on 02/18/04
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I'll review my FO burger & whatever delicious microbrew I'm having tonight for you tomorrow, would that help?
Posted by Macrider a 37 year old Die-hard Enthusiast riding a Turner RFX, XCE & Trek Bruiser 2 from LA on 02/18/04
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I go with the frites - the sweet potato seem a tad wilty to me....it's been too long since I've had a cold cold brew & burger at FO....maybe the rain will keep the crowds away?
Posted by Macrider a 37 year old Die-hard Enthusiast riding a Turner RFX, XCE & Trek Bruiser 2 from LA on 02/18/04
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So, please give a full report. I need my FO fix. How was the burger, and which brew (or brews) accompanied it?
Posted by El Jefe a 34 year old riding a Blinging V10, ghetto Stinky, Azonic P, & a SS Kona Cowan from Trabuco Canyon on 02/19/04
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Cant go wrong with a good heffeweizen on a hot day. Micro brew of course, from PH Woods. After that I would have to say Bass+Guiness to make yourself a black and tan.
Posted by Dookie a 29 year old Cross-Country riding a 03 giant nrs2 from riverside Ca on 02/19/04
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Ok Dookie, wtf are you talking about? Black and tan's at FO is almost sacrilege (doesn't go with the buger, um I mean burger), and it was cold and rainy all day yesterday. I'm confused. PH Woods? Please advise...
Posted by Endo Verendo riding a Nother Turner from The Valley on 02/19/04
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Sorry, maybe im confused. I was just throwing in my 2cents on my fave beers. I do not know what FO is, and I dont eat too many burgers. PH Woods is a local micro brew here in Riverside CA. The best wheat beer Ive ever had.
Im going to be puchasing my own brewing equipment soon, and brew with some of my riding buds who all ready have been brewing for some time.
Posted by Dookie a 29 year old Cross-Country riding a 03 giant nrs3 from riverside Ca on 02/19/04
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Yeah, you threw me off since you replied to the FO thread. I only eat burgers once a month and only at Father's Office. A ride out here and a post-ride meal/beer there is well worth the trip from Riverside.
Posted by Endo Verendo riding a Nother Turner from The Valley on 02/19/04
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Burger was, as always, perfect! I started with an Arrogant Bastard (the lure of having it on tap was too much to ignore), followed by a Chemay (again, it's on tap for the first time in like 500 years, how can you leave it?) - good times....
Posted by Macrider a 37 year old Die-hard Enthusiast riding a Turner RFX, XCE & Trek Bruiser 2 from LA on 02/19/04
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You mean Chimay, right?
Posted by El Jefe a 34 year old riding a Blinging V10, ghetto Stinky, Azonic P, & a SS Kona Cowan from Trabuco Canyon on 02/19/04
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Hmmmmm, Stone, Sierra Nevada, Lost Coast... I'm still liking Guinness and my new found refreshment after a hot n' dusty flogging is Warstiener. I'm thinking it's the Budweiser of the GmBH but the quality comes through in the cripsy taste. Full of cotton panty goodness. And yes, if you're still wondering, I'm is still alive and cranking. Woe unto the wildlife of Riverside county and other various parts of the 909. E me if ya give a rat's a55. ;-)
Posted by Chuqster from Riverside on 02/21/04
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Sometimes when I reflect back on all the beer I drink I feel ashamed. Then I look into the glass and think about the workers in the brewery and all of their hopes and dreams. If I didn't drink this beer, they might be out of work and their dreams would be shattered. Then I say to myself, 'It is better that I drink this beer and let their dreams come true than to be selfish and worry about my liver.' --Jack Handey More at Nick Sande's Surly bio page.
Posted by Black Bart a 31 year old Die-hard Enthusiast riding a Sugar+ from Santa Monica on 02/27/04
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THIS JUST IN>>>>>> Beverages and More is now open in the Valley. One is Sherman Oaks/Van Nuys on Sepulveda between Burbank and Oxnard. The other is in Canoga Park. DDawg just came back from there and bought about $40 worth of their 750 beer varieties and got $10 off. Nice.
Posted by Endo Verendo riding a 4 Spot from the Valley on 02/28/04
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I wonder what Redhook would look like?
